Stock cascade of class 150s

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According to GEMINI FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have now started re-forming the 2 Coach 158s:-into 3 Car Sets

158960 - Formed of 57747 52769 57769
158961   Formed of 52749 52767 57767

158962 still to be formed

[JayMac]

From the Bath Chronicle:

Additional carriages for local train services welcomed

Improvements to First Great Western rail services calling at stations in Bath and North East Somerset have been welcomed by the Council.

Services from Bristol Temple Meads to Keynsham, Oldfield Park, Bath Spa and Freshford will benefit from an additional carriage each at 0841 and 1749 (both 4 carriages instead of 3) on Mondays to Fridays.

Services from Bath Spa to Bristol Temple Meads via Oldfield Park and Keynsham will benefit from additional carriages at 0847 (4 carriages instead of 2), 1415 (2 carriages instead of 1), and 1607 (3 carriages instead of 2). These trains all run on Mondays to Fridays and also call at Freshford 12-13 minutes before Bath Spa.

Each additional carriage contains 70 - 75 seats. They will be placed into service as and when First Great Western receive them. The process should be complete by mid-December.

Statistics published by the Office of Rail Regulation confirm that there were 30% more rail passenger journeys to and from stations in Bath and North East Somerset in 2009/10 than in 2004/5.

Councillor Roger Symonds (Lib-Dem, Combe Down), Cabinet Member for Transport, said, "The additional carriages provide welcome extra capacity for these busy services. Bath & North East Somerset Council, through the West of England Partnership, has been lobbying the Department for Transport for several years to make more rolling stock available to First Great Western so we are pleased our suggestions have been acted upon.

"Part of the Council's integrated transport policy will consider how our railway infrastructure can be better used to encourage more people to use trains and reduce dependence on the private car. This includes highlighting the case for more rolling stock to be made available to train operators to help them meet the growing demand for rail services."

[northwesterntrains]

The above must be referring to the additional 153s FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have got from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise).

[paul7575]

The above must be referring to the additional 153s FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have got from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise).

That doesn't necessarily follow, the two extra 150s (ie the 10th and 11th units) are also additional to the original 15 LO/LM transfers.

(As a side point, I hear the SWT^▸ (South West Trains) 158 daily hire is still planned for in the December timetable...)

Paul

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Understand 150106 expected from Tyseley in middle of week but that 150124 and 150125 may not come until the last minute before the new Timetable in December.
Has anybody seen any services being worked by 3 coach 158s that were not previously worked by them.

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Understand 150106 expected from Tyseley in middle of week but that 150124 and 150125 may not come until the last minute before the new Timetable in December.
Has anybody seen any services being worked by 3 coach 158s that were not previously worked by them.

I can reply to my own question.   I travelled on 12 48 Paignton to Cardiff today formed by a 3 Coach 158 and which had previously been worked by a 158 (2 Coach) + 153.    This would be an obvious Diagram for a 158 (3 Car).

[Nibat]

I would wait several days before making that a definite anwer, to be honest...

We had all sorts of stock working that train, from 3 car 158s, to 158+150, or double 150.  Usually is a 158+153, but I have the feeling that most of the times in a way depends on what's available at SPM^▸ (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)).

Now, I would say that a 3 car 158 has been a bit more common lately...

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5Z74 Tyseley to St Phillips Marsh today with 150124.   Looks like that 150106 will be held back with 150125.   Not quite enough 172s yet for full programme, hence the reason.

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I would wait several days before making that a definite anwer, to be honest...

We had all sorts of stock working that train, from 3 car 158s, to 158+150, or double 150.  Usually is a 158+153, but I have the feeling that most of the times in a way depends on what's available at SPM^▸ (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)).

Now, I would say that a 3 car 158 has been a bit more common lately...

Although not 100% certain if the Diagram many quotes say diagrammed 158 (2 Coach)  + 153.   This would be a 3 Car swap, the 153 being available for deployment elsewhere

[vacman]

5Z74 Tyseley to St Phillips Marsh today with 150124.   Looks like that 150106 will be held back with 150125.   Not quite enough 172s yet for full programme, hence the reason.

106 was meant to go bristol today, obviously LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) keeping hold of it for a while.

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It appears 150124 came instead, with 150106 and 150125 staying until all 172s delivered to LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise).  There were 3 outstanding at the weekend.  The ones outstanding were the ones which were sent to enable Depot training to commence at Tyseley before the seats had been fitted and they are at Litchurch lane now for the fitting.  Further to 50124 now reported to have been at Tyseley this morning so I think I'm giving up until something more definite known instead of conflicting reports.

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Movement x Tyseley last week did not take place but 124 should have arrived today.     !50106 and 150125 remaining at moment, 1 to cover for one remaining with LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) to receive a new engine but which should arrive by mid December and the other to remain temp due to 2 x 172 at Bombardier waiting parts.
There is a new thread today, I notice, about extra carriages following DFT^▸ (Department for Transport) announcement.    The main thing is that the Prototype 150s WILL be coming for the Reading to Basingstoke.    150209 which is a bit of a strange character formed of 2 middle cars but are both toiletless.    They should be used similarly to make 150121 and 150127 (the original FGW^▸ (First Great Western) 150/1s) into 3 Car Sets.     Until 209 has been refurbidhed though, it is repote until they are reforbished.d that each coach will work with a 153 similar to 153399 which e had due to fire damage to a coach of 150221.
  The Basingstke Sets and 150209 are currently at Eastleigh having been sent there originally by DFT for Storage.  No additional Units that have been allocated are for increasing the Trans Wilts service.   I was hoping that the pressure for the required improvemnt would have been kept up to send a message to DFT and FGW that the issue was not going to go away.

[anthony215]

Just picked this up from UK^▸ (United Kingdom) railforums:

150002 & 150209 are due to leave Eastleigh (Dep 11:22) today (Wednesday) as 5z69  to St Phillips Marsh arriving @ 13:40 .

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=882839#post882839

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150002 (? Basingstoke) and the looless 150209 arrived from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) today.  Not direct nut from Eastleigh where they originally went due to DFT^▸ (Department for Transport) proposing Store originally.   150001 still at Tyseley.

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150002 (? Basingstoke) and the looless 150209 arrived from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) today.  Not direct nut from Eastleigh where they originally went due to DFT^▸ (Department for Transport) proposing Store originally.   150001 still at Tyseley.
Just to say I overlooked post last night re move from Eastleigh.    Just to clarify, the set referred to as toiletless 150209 is actually 57209 and 57212 which have lost their partners along the way due to "write offs" but have been used as Centre Cars and changing nto 150/0s.   I understand that 150121 and 150127 will be re-numbered to 150021 and 150027 after the odd ones (209) are placed in thembut not until they have been refurbished.    The intention, please correct me if I am wrong, is for them ocated to PM for working in the Bristol area.