Stock cascade of class 150s

[whole diary]

[phile]

Should not be long though.   
150202 out in traffic yesterday (Wed) on 06 26 Bristol Parkway to Penzance. with swapping cars around with 10/1s, the other 150/2 is now reputedly to be 150216.   Not sure for certain if has been re-liveried but would assume still 3 + 2 seating.    I think perhaps we should  wait and see for certain in due course.

[anthony215]

There is a report on uk railforums that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are to test a class 150 on the route between Reading & Bassinsgtoke today.

I have nod idea  whether or not this has been confirmed, but if anyone is in the area they may want to keep their eyes out.

[IndustryInsider]

There is a report on uk railforums that FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are to test a class 150 on the route between Reading & Bassinsgtoke today.

That's correct.  There's obviously something to this 150's on the Basingstoke route!  Here's today's special diagram:

[paul7575]

OK, I'll take that bet, especially as Reading depot won't be geared up to deal with 150s.

It probably isn't that difficult to look after a DMU^▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) or two away from their normal base for a few days at a time.  It's exactly how LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) currently provide for the Bletchley - Bedford service, (the Marston Vale line), the units rotate from Tysley every few days, and are outbased at Bletchley EMU^▸ (Electric Multiple Unit) depot; similarly SWT^▸ (South West Trains)'s EMU depot at Bournemouth looks after a single 158 four nights a week.

Now if it were suggested that 150001/2 were permanently based at Reading and never got back to Exeter that would be awkward, but I'd surmise that a Monday - Friday outbasing should be possible, with them being maintained at Exeter over the weekend when Turbos could return to the route...

Paul

[vacman]

001 and 002 are coming to FGW^▸ (First Great Western), the two orphaned 150/2 vehicles from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) are at Eastleigh at the moment.

[anthony215]

150130 was used on the tests today there is a photo of it at Reading on uk railforums 

[Maxwell P]

001 and 002 are coming to FGW^▸ (First Great Western), the two orphaned 150/2 vehicles from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) are at Eastleigh at the moment.

IIRC^▸ (if I recall/remember/read correctly), the orphans are both non WC^▸ (Wiltshire Council (Unitary Authority)).  I heard that they would be hybridised with a 153 units to make 2 car train, but in theory, nothing to stop a 3 car 150/2 either.

[The SprinterMeister]

001 and 002 are coming to FGW^▸ (First Great Western), the two orphaned 150/2 vehicles from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) are at Eastleigh at the moment.

IIRC^▸ (if I recall/remember/read correctly), the orphans are both non WC^▸ (Wiltshire Council (Unitary Authority)).  I heard that they would be hybridised with a 153 units to make 2 car train, but in theory, nothing to stop a 3 car 150/2 either.

No but the idea of a three car set of sufficient capacity to work services without strengthening (thus no need for gangwayed cab ends) make poking the loose 150/2 coaches into 150/1 sets a better idea. Leaving the two car 150/2's to double up or run with 153's in the peaks and retain through gangway access. However I gather there is a minimum ratio of toilets to vehicles for trains used on longer runs, ergo a three car fixed formation set needs two toilets as I understand it.   

[Maxwell P]

001 and 002 are coming to FGW^▸ (First Great Western), the two orphaned 150/2 vehicles from LM^▸ (London Midland - recent franchise) are at Eastleigh at the moment.

IIRC^▸ (if I recall/remember/read correctly), the orphans are both non WC^▸ (Wiltshire Council (Unitary Authority)).  I heard that they would be hybridised with a 153 units to make 2 car train, but in theory, nothing to stop a 3 car 150/2 either.

No but the idea of a three car set of sufficient capacity to work services without strengthening (thus no need for gangwayed cab ends) make poking the loose 150/2 coaches into 150/1 sets a better idea. Leaving the two car 150/2's to double up or run with 153's in the peaks and retain through gangway access. However I gather there is a minimum ratio of toilets to vehicles for trains used on longer runs, ergo a three car fixed formation set needs two toilets as I understand it.   

Of course! I actually meant to put 150/1.  To much red with Sunday lunch :-)

[dog box]

Apparently SCUD 1 and 2, have some quite significant mechanical and electrical differences to there offsprings, and thus maintainence at another depot is possible a number of the fitters at Reading are 150 trained and holding all the unique spares in one place seems sensible

[hornbeam]

What^s the capacity like comparing to a two car 165? The rush hour services on this route are rammed as it is. Be interesting to see what happens, are they planning on strengthening other TV services then? As for being on a 150 all the way from Reading to Gatwick...... no comment!

[IndustryInsider]

It depends on what sort of refresh might be done on the units or course, but I think the Class 150/0's have 220 or so seats in their 3-car formation, compared to 190 or so on a 2-car Class 165.  So there would be a net gain in seating on the route.

[The SprinterMeister]

Apparently SCUD 1 and 2, have some quite significant mechanical and electrical differences to there offsprings, and thus maintainence at another depot is possible a number of the fitters at Reading are 150 trained and holding all the unique spares in one place seems sensible

From what I can gather else where the bogies are now standard and the alternators are now as per 150/2. The wiring diagrams are different for each set though due to one having Cummins 855's and one having Rolls Royce Eagle engines as built. Theye were also used as test beds for 158 traction equipment as well if I remember correctly.

[phile]

Friday 21/10 5Z42 12+29 Exeter to Newton Heath formed of 2 X 142.     Believed to be 029 and 064 but don't quote me on those numbers

[phile]

Will the 150/1 be allocated to EX in due course, perhaps when the Cascade is complete which should be virtually at any time now.   I have seen posts elsewhere which I never regard as definite, unless my judgement tells me so, that 2 X 150/1s will remain allocated to SPM^▸ (St Philip's Marsh (Bristol depot)).     I find this strange as it means splitting the Fleet instead of concentrating them all ay one Depot just for the sake of 2.      If correct, I would assume they would be 121 and 127 which were not part of the Cascade having been with FGW^▸ (First Great Western) for a time.     150202 and 150216 would be allocated to SPM.