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« on: January 20, 2011, 14:41:40 » |
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While i was waiting at Bristol TM‡ last night for the 22:54 service to Cardiff central i noticed that the information board on platform 4 was shwoing a service to Cardiff at 01:34. This service wasnt shown in the FGW▸ timetable book that i have but a check online showed it. Now am i right in guessing that it was a fault in teh journey planner or something or have FGW decided to run a overnight train between Cardiff & Bristol? I took a photo of the screen which is at: http://anthonyjohn550.photoblog.me.uk/p68763476.html |
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« Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 14:48:30 by anthony215 »
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super tm
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2011, 14:51:49 » |
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Are you sure it is not at the start of your book as it would be the first train to run in the morning
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anthony215
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2011, 14:54:58 » |
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I checked an could not find anything although a service at that time would be good for anyone traveling from Bristol Airport. But wouldn't FGW▸ advertise this service.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2011, 15:02:04 » |
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Yeah that's the 2330 off PAD» .
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I do not work for FGW▸ and posts should not be assumed and do not imply they are statements, unless explicitly stated that they are, from any TOC▸ including First Great Western.
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Hafren
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 15:03:45 » |
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The 23.xx Paddington-Bristol is extended to Cardiff. Looking quickly through the relevant timetables, it seems to be shown where it should be. I thought the TM‡ stop might be set-down only, which would explain it not being shown on planners, but it appears to be an ordinary stop now.
Some years ago there was a similar service (I used it around 2001 on a Saturday; not sure if it ran in the week). That made 's' stops after Swindon, so if there was any engineering work it could terminate at Temple Meads but connect with a bus at Swindon. That service was withdrawn at some point, but seems to have re-appeared in the last few years, with Newport appearing to be the only 's' stop.
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Louis94
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 15:06:03 » |
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I checked an could not find anything although a service at that time would be good for anyone traveling from Bristol Airport. But wouldn't FGW▸ advertise this service.
That service is the 2330 from London Paddington, calling all normal stations to Bristol, then Newport and Cardiff Central. Its advertised in Timetable 1 and 2, however not in any of the local timetables. It then returns to Bristol Temple Meads empty (not booked to visit St Phillips Marsh) and forms the empty stock that then forms the 0620 from Weston-super-Mare. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 15:25:48 » |
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Smart move, not full advertising a service like that. Then when it is porly used it can be axed to save money.
Cynical, Moi?
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 15:32:43 » |
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Checked the pocket timetable on the firstgreatwesterm website for Cardiff to Bristol and it is there.
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anthony215
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 15:41:01 » |
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Ok thanks for the information although i have no idea why it isnt in the timetable book i have. might get another 1
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JayMac
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 16:10:50 » |
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Which 'book' are you talking about?
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 19:46:29 » |
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In timetable book 28, on page 21, it's shown as MX - Service operates Tuesdays to Fridays only.
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2011, 00:39:55 » |
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And at the end of the same timetable it is listed twice, with different timings for Friday Only (FO) and Friday Excepted (FX). In timetable 2 it is only listed at the end of the day, again with FO and FX timings. No mention of MX there.   |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2011, 00:55:44 » |
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Err ... no: on page 26 in timetable book 28 (Mondays to Fridays) it's shown in two columns in black as the 0134 from BRI» , either setting down only at Newport at 0210 or 0200, and arriving at Cardiff at 0231 or 0217. No note as to whether this difference relates to FO, or FX - in which case, surely these entries in the printed version should be in pink? |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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JayMac
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 01:33:46 » |
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Ahh, I'm looking at the network timetable book and assuming the individual books would be the same. Sorry! No MX in my book. And the FO and FX are in pink in both the Bristol/Bath to Cardiff and Paddington to Bristol/Somerset/South Wales timetables. Booking engines show the 2330 ex PAD» as a runner on Mondays also. Perhaps paying ^3 for a Network Timetable guarantees greater accuracy? Timetable errors? Surely not?   |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
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Hafren
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 12:07:50 » |
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The MX is in the Bristol-Cardiff local timetable. The stops shown on that timetable are entirely after midnight, so it's shown at the beginning of the day. I would guess it doesn't run on Sunday night, so there's no Monday morning service, hence the MX.
In the HSS▸ timetables, it's shown as a 2330 start, so it's an evening service, running Mon-Fri, with different timings on Friday. Those differerent timings would show up on a Saturday morning in the local timetable.
There's a special module in the Comprehending Tickets & Timetables course on services that run after midnight...
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