Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion

[whole diary]

[Electric train]

As someone who commutes from Twyford I never thought I'd be arguing to keep GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) but Crossrail is looking more and more of a backward step for those commuting from further out.

I'd raise it with my MP^▸ (Member of Parliament) but apparently she's busy... 

Yep she is busy with something apparently a National problem 

Crossrail will take over as planned to local Reading - Pad stoppers; there is supposed to be semi fast (Twyford, Maidenhead, Slough, Hayes, Ealing Broadway) as part of the Elizbeth line.

It makes sense for the new trains to used instead of rotting in sidings

[paul7575]

Surely GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)’s existing rolling stock internal cascades, now including HEx, are already designed around Crossrail taking over the stoppers on the originally planned date?

Paul

[stuving]

To help you out, if you don't have the stamina for KPMG's two 100+page reports, TfL^» (Transport for London - about) have produced a briefing note for tomorrow's board meeting. It includes the executive summary sections of the two reports, plus a two-page executive summary summary of them.

One of the facts reported is that CRL closed down their central Audit Committee, which dealt with risks and progress monitoring, in July 2018. This was a pre-programmed "demobilisation" step, to coincide with the construction projects having completed by then. Of course they hadn't. CRL are saying it didn't really matter, but it does have a symptomatic look and feel.

[grahame]

It makes sense for the new trains to used instead of rotting in sidings

Need to be careful ... someone will suggest running 387s out to Cardiff next ... start releasing IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train) for the Devon Metro.  Please not on Exmouths though as the doors are at the end.  Oh - and for Cardiff - Portsmouth too.

[stuving]

There some pictures here (from Construction Enquirer) of the proposed Oak Oak Common stations(s) (architects WilkinsonEyre, actually announced by HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) here but with fewer pictures).

The underlying pictures are big and can be zoomed into close enough to read the labels on clothes - or to see that the artist of these impressions skived off his "track layout for architectural impressionists" course, and has a very hazy notion of which side of London Old Oak Common lies on.

You will see that the GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)/Crossrail station has four escalators per platform, but it's less clear what the HS2 one's longer (450 m) platforms will have and how well they line up - but as it's underground it's hard to be sure.

[Electric train]

There some pictures here (from Construction Enquirer) of the proposed Oak Oak Common stations(s) (architects WilkinsonEyre, actually announced by HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) here but with fewer pictures).

The underlying pictures are big and can be zoomed into close enough to read the labels on clothes - or to see that the artist of these impressions skived off his "track layout for architectural impressionists" course, and has a very hazy notion of which side of London Old Oak Common lies on.

You will see that the GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway)/Crossrail station has four escalators per platform, but it's less clear what the HS2 one's longer (450 m) platforms will have and how well they line up - but as it's underground it's hard to be sure.

I never knew there was so much open countryside to the north of OOC^▸ (Old Oak Common (depot)) 

   Doubt it will look anything like it in the end

[Thatcham Crossing]

I never knew there was so much open countryside to the north of OOC^▸ (Old Oak Common (depot))  Shocked

....and all the parked-up Class 345's appear to be missing aswell 

[SandTEngineer]

Shame their won't be a single trace left of the old GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) Old Oak depot.  Such is progress I suppose....

[IndustryInsider]

If all goes as planned it will totally transform the area!

[SandTEngineer]

That will take some doing.

And I speak as one who had part of his railway career being based in Old Oak Common Lane!

[TonyK]

There some pictures here (from Construction Enquirer) of the proposed Oak Oak Common stations(s) (architects WilkinsonEyre, actually announced by HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) here but with fewer pictures).

So good they named it twice!

[metalrail]

The underlying pictures are big and can be zoomed into close enough to read the labels on clothes - or to see that the artist of these impressions skived off his "track layout for architectural impressionists" course, and has a very hazy notion of which side of London Old Oak Common lies on.

Despite all of the other detail included in the pictures, there appears to be a distinct lack of any OLE^▸ (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") which would obviously change the scene a fair bit, and is also rather - ummm - necessary! 

[eXPassenger]

Despite all of the other detail included in the pictures, there appears to be a distinct lack of any OLE^▸ (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") which would obviously change the scene a fair bit, and is also rather - ummm - necessary!

Haven't you heard?  By the time this is built all the railways will be running on hydrogen piped in from the sun.

[Oxonhutch]

Trying to work out where on that image where the (I assume reinstated) Chiltern Railway line from South Ruislip joins with the station. I would have thought there would be terminal bays for that service.

[stuving]

Trying to work out where on that image where the (I assume reinstated) Chiltern Railway line from South Ruislip joins with the station. I would have thought there would be terminal bays for that service.

That line (where it is now) is just about off the bottom of the picture. 

The last I heard Chiltern were trying to get NR^» (Network Rail - home page) to commit to space for the platforms - by implication not part of the design of the Crossrail/GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) station but somewhere not to far away. But the first step would be for Crossrail to give up their reversing sidings on the very start of the line towards Perivale! Has anyone heard anything since December 2017?

I'd be more worried if I lived in Midland Terrace or Shaftesbury Gardens - they are replaced by cardboard boxes. At least ODPC's masterplanners leave them intact, if fuzzy. They (and Wells House Road) are already complaining about being surrounded by HS2^▸ (The next High Speed line(s)) work sites.