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Author Topic: Line problem between Taunton and Bristol Temple Meads - 20/12/2010  (Read 7920 times)
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« on: December 20, 2010, 13:24:30 »

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Train services are being disrupted due to an operating incident between Taunton and Bristol Temple Meads.Short notice alterations and delays of up to 30 minutes can be expected.

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 14:33:59 »

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Because of this, there are delays of up to 45 minutes between Bristol Temple Meads and Taunton. These delays are expected to last until further notice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 14:41:23 »

It's apparently causing some rather bizarre details on the Nailsea & Backwell live departures board:

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14:03    Exeter St David's     09:24 279 mins early
14:38    Weston-super-Mare   Cancelled
14:57    Cardiff Central        15:15 18 mins late
15:03         Taunton                Delayed

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 14:45:03 »

However the early 14:03 is 887 minutes late at Temple Meads
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 14:46:34 »

There was an HST (High Speed Train) sat in Weston-super-Mare when I drove over the railway bridge earlier, and similarly what looked like the same HST approx. 1 hour later.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 18:04:00 »

The 07.40 Paignton-Paddington (which started at Newton Abbott) appeared to disappear off all FGW (First Great Western) and National Rail sites after arriving late at Weston-S-M this morning. Was this the begining of the problems?
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 18:12:45 »

A trawl of other rail forums shows speculation that there was a SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger) at Weston-super-Mare leading to fouling of a set of points. Hasten to add this is rumour with no official verification.

I have a fair idea of which service may have been involved in the incident, but in fairness to the driver I think it not wise that we speculate further here. Even if the incident is totally the fault of the weather.

With my Moderator hat on could I also ask other forum members not to speculate as to the details of the specific service involved. SPADs are a serious operating incident and no doubt a full investigation will be carried out in due course.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 18:16:17 »

Sounds like somebody could be in the dog house............ Roll Eyes Shocked Lips sealed
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2010, 14:07:37 »

confirmed there was a spad at W-S-M and line was closed due to investigation work being carried out!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2010, 19:30:01 »

as above was a SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger) at uphill involving a hst on way up from south west causing damage to points that were set for a train coming off single line.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2010, 20:27:04 »

as above was a SPAD (Signal Passed At Danger) at uphill involving a hst on way up from south west causing damage to points that were set for a train coming off single line.

I heard it was train coming off the branch from Weston.  Thats what rumours are like !
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 20:46:58 »

My own source (someone official in the office at Bristol) confirmed to me earlier that it was 'what smithy said'.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 13:11:20 »

There's a paragraph referring to this incident in the RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Branch) report into a near miss involving a freight train and two
passenger trains at Carstairs on 22nd December 2009 that was released today....

136 More recently, on 20 December 2010, an incident occurred in snowy conditions at Uphill junction, near to Weston-super-Mare when a passenger train passed a red signal by about 375 metres and ran through a set of trailing points, causing damage to them. This train was a service from Newton Abbot to London Paddington and was formed by a High Speed Train (HST (High Speed Train)) which has coaches that are fitted with brake pads and discs. The train^s data recorder showed that the driver did not correctly carry out the instructions in Section 18 of module TW1 of the Rule Book relating to braking in snow conditions. While the driver did carry out running brake tests at the required frequency, he did not make a full service brake application and reduce the train^s speed by at least 10 mph (16 km/h). After this incident the train operating company reissued a notice to its drivers which mandated them to comply with the full requirements of the rules in Section 18 of module TW1 whenever there was snow lying on the ground. This was in addition to the requirement for drivers to apply these rules when snow is falling or fallen snow is being disturbed by the passage of trains. This notice was later withdrawn when the weather conditions improved.

I would assume that there won't be a full report as they usually indicate when an event is still under investigation.

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PS Mods - could we change the thread title please to reflect the now historical nature of the subject?
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 17:47:55 »

PS Mods - could we change the thread title please to reflect the now historical nature of the subject?

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