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« Reply #165 on: April 12, 2009, 18:42:17 » |
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HI, THIS TOPIC HAS STALLED!!!
It clearly shows the problem of support of all projects Rail.
Whilst the Road Lobby is up and Kicking there is no organised national Rail Lobby, yes there is Rail Future (RDS or what ever they call themselves now) but Rail Future is spilit into Branches who all have there own key projects, Rail Futures a good bunch of Men & Women with the right Ideas (I'm a former RDS member).
What is needed is a National Rail Lobby that Puts forward a Key Rail Project (such as Tavistock reinstatement) and campaigns for it Nationally.
When DfT» gives in then the Campaign turns to the next Project such as reinstating Rail to St Ives Cambs.
That's the way forward for a much better Rail System in this Country.
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« Reply #166 on: April 13, 2009, 12:14:01 » |
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HI, THIS TOPIC HAS STALLED!!!
It clearly shows the problem of support of all projects Rail.
Whilst the Road Lobby is up and Kicking there is no organised national Rail Lobby, yes there is Rail Future (RDS or what ever they call themselves now) but Rail Future is spilit into Branches who all have there own key projects, Rail Futures a good bunch of Men & Women with the right Ideas (I'm a former RDS member).
What is needed is a National Rail Lobby that Puts forward a Key Rail Project (such as Tavistock reinstatement) and campaigns for it Nationally.
When DfT» gives in then the Campaign turns to the next Project such as reinstating Rail to St Ives Cambs.
That's the way forward for a much better Rail System in this Country.
Far from it, Oilengineer. It continues in another thread, where you'll find the latest updates on progress towards the reconnection of Tavistock to the rail network. http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=4324.0Tavistock aside, I do agree with your point that a national rail lobby able to focus the agenda on one or two projects at a time would be a great idea, though there's always the fear that projects in certain high-visibilty regions - notably those near London - would dominate any nationally-set agenda. The two major projects of recent years in the far south west - the Burngullow redoubling and the Penryn loop - have been brought about primarily as a result of an concerted effort between local and European organisations. |
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« Reply #167 on: April 13, 2009, 17:32:15 » |
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« Reply #168 on: April 13, 2009, 17:44:15 » |
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Perhaps this thread should be shut, and diverted to the other one. Cue Chris with a bad joke... |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #169 on: April 13, 2009, 21:44:27 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #170 on: April 16, 2009, 22:35:10 » |
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« Reply #171 on: April 16, 2009, 22:43:57 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #173 on: April 22, 2009, 13:02:05 » |
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Good news indeed.This has been talked for so long that until the first train is rumbling out of Bere Alston towards Tavistock,i shall remain cynical! Certainly looks good though.I'm not really au fait with planning procedures etc-do you know if there are any stumbling blocks that could be placed in the way of the project? |
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« Reply #174 on: April 22, 2009, 13:06:19 » |
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Good news indeed.This has been talked for so long that until the first train is rumbling out of Bere Alston towards Tavistock,i shall remain cynical! Certainly looks good though.I'm not really au fait with planning procedures etc-do you know if there are any stumbling blocks that could be placed in the way of the project?
One issue now is that all regional transport projects (other than motorways) are funded by Regional Funding Allocation and have to be given priority by the Regional Assembly. It will not only be up against road projects but also local public transport schemes and it could be decided that the scheme is not a regional priority as the funds needs to be used in other areas of the South West region. |
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« Reply #175 on: April 22, 2009, 13:23:13 » |
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Good news indeed.This has been talked for so long that until the first train is rumbling out of Bere Alston towards Tavistock,i shall remain cynical! Certainly looks good though.I'm not really au fait with planning procedures etc-do you know if there are any stumbling blocks that could be placed in the way of the project?
One issue now is that all regional transport projects (other than motorways) are funded by Regional Funding Allocation and have to be given priority by the Regional Assembly. It will not only be up against road projects but also local public transport schemes and it could be decided that the scheme is not a regional priority as the funds needs to be used in other areas of the South West region. Would the funding not be covered by Kilbride's involvement though? I was under the impression that Kilbride would fund[^18 million is the last projected figure] and build the railway and make their profit from also building the 750 new homes. |
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« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2009, 13:30:30 » |
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Would the funding not be covered by Kilbride's involvement though? I was under the impression that Kilbride would fund[^18 million is the last projected figure] and build the railway and make their profit from also building the 750 new homes.
Is that the entire cost of the project? |
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« Reply #177 on: April 22, 2009, 13:38:42 » |
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Would the funding not be covered by Kilbride's involvement though? I was under the impression that Kilbride would fund[^18 million is the last projected figure] and build the railway and make their profit from also building the 750 new homes.
Is that the entire cost of the project? I can help here. Yes, Kilbride will fund the ^18.5million cost of rebuilding the railway and also the additional cost of operating the enhanced service (that is, over and above the existing Tamar Valley Line service) for a period of, I think, up to three years. No money will be sought from the Regional Funding Allocation. Richard Burningham Devon & Cornwall Rail Partnership |
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« Reply #178 on: April 22, 2009, 14:31:40 » |
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Richard, as someone who is more in the know than most, would you hazard a guess as to the chances that this will now actually happen? 50%? 75%?
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« Reply #179 on: April 22, 2009, 15:32:57 » |
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Richard, as someone who is more in the know than most, would you hazard a guess as to the chances that this will now actually happen? 50%? 75%?
Well, Tavistock reopening has never really got very far in the past and this is a deliverable project that can be funded and has advanced a long way (with a lot further to go) in the planning process. Devon County Council taking over the track bed, tunnel and viaduct still owned by BRB‡ Residuary is another big step forward - although, even if the railway doesn't happen, this move will not have been in vain as the cycleway will definitely happen. I wouldn't like to put a percentage on the chances of the project going ahead but we are much, much further ahead with it than at any time in the past and Kilbride are committed to making it happen. |
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