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« on: October 27, 2010, 21:10:02 » |
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We sometimes worry about tickets not being checked ... I've been away for a few days and returned today - counted 9 ticket checks (manual or gate) on the rail part of the journey ... and I suspect this isn't a record.
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On train (between Swindon and Chippenham)
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 00:44:07 » |
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Teatime HST▸ down from Plymouth today - no check.
Passengers sat in the aisles, vestibules rammed, 15 mins down at Penzance.
Not much relief on the way down as numbers leaving were matched by those boarding.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 08:37:40 » |
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Teatime HST▸ down from Plymouth today - no check.
Passengers sat in the aisles, vestibules rammed, 15 mins down at Penzance.
Not much relief on the way down as numbers leaving were matched by those boarding.
...on a train as you have described Safety of the train is of more importance than checking tickets |
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 08:39:09 » |
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On train (between London and Reading)
On train (between Didcot and Swindon)
On train (between Swindon and Chippenham) Did the person checking tickets ask for "all tickets" or was it just the willy-nilly "tickets from x"? The latter is something that really bugs me. "Tickets from Bristol Temple Meads" whilst I'm sat there thinking "you only boarded this train at Temple Meads, how do you know who has a valid ticket?" |
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 08:47:05 » |
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normally because the departing guard has actually given you a verbal handover of the train telling you of any problems and saying i have done tickets up to Bristol ..if the tickets have been checked by a colleague who tells me they are all in order why on earth wolud i want to do them again
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 13:51:46 » |
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The latter is something that really bugs me. "Tickets from Bristol Temple Meads" whilst I'm sat there thinking "you only boarded this train at Temple Meads, how do you know who has a valid ticket?"
And of those travelling without tickets always pipe up and confess when asked!  All very well taking the attitude that a particular train may have already been fully checked or that a particular station has barriers but there's nothing to stop anyone buying a ticket from RDG‡-RDW and then getting a free ride to a station of their choice! |
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 14:59:03 » |
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All very well taking the attitude that a particular train may have already been fully checked or that a particular station has barriers but there's nothing to stop anyone buying a ticket from RDG‡-RDW and then getting a free ride to a station of their choice!
Absolutely! Back in the day, BR▸ 's ticket examining instructions explicitly required that following a staff changeover a full ticket check was required. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 15:09:42 » |
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On train (between London and Reading)
On train (between Didcot and Swindon)
On train (between Swindon and Chippenham) Did the person checking tickets ask for "all tickets" or was it just the willy-nilly "tickets from x"? From Paddington - complete check From Didcot - complete check From Swindon - "Tickets from Reading and Swindon"; note that I had dropped back a train - I'd been on the 11:48 Paddington to Cheltenham Train and dropped back at Swindon to the 12:00 ex Paddington. As my ticket was not from either Reading or Swindon (it was actually from Norwich!) I'm unclear as to whether I was being asked to present it ... But, really, unpredicable checking patterns are probably the most effective! |
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2010, 10:51:07 » |
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From Paddington - complete check
From Didcot - complete check
From Swindon - "Tickets from Reading and Swindon"; note that I had dropped back a train - I'd been on the 11:48 Paddington to Cheltenham Train and dropped back at Swindon to the 12:00 ex Paddington. As my ticket was not from either Reading or Swindon (it was actually from Norwich!) I'm unclear as to whether I was being asked to present it ... Don't you think that the checker meant "Tickets please from those boarding at Didcot or Swindon?.....I do! |
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2010, 23:50:12 » |
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From Paddington - complete check
From Didcot - complete check
From Swindon - "Tickets from Reading and Swindon"; note that I had dropped back a train - I'd been on the 11:48 Paddington to Cheltenham Train and dropped back at Swindon to the 12:00 ex Paddington. As my ticket was not from either Reading or Swindon (it was actually from Norwich!) I'm unclear as to whether I was being asked to present it ... Don't you think that the checker meant "Tickets please from those boarding at Didcot or Swindon?.....I do! Regardless of all that tho.. as as been mentioned.. that requires people to "fess up" as to where they got on... or keep quiet and travel free.. i've never understaood those type of ticket checks... |
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 13:07:28 » |
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It's interesting to see ticket checks on the Salisbury to Waterloo Mainline... I get normally get checked once between Waterloo and Salisbury (SWT▸ ) and then left to my devices, but rarely checked between Salisbury and Westbury. Although in saying that, I was ticket checked between Salisbury and Warminster the other day and was even asked to present my disabled railcard...!
FGW▸ I seem to note in First Class are quite heavy on ticket checks between BRI» and PAD» on peak services too, you'll often get asked for a ticket by the Customer Host and then the TM‡ a bit later in the journey.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 17:11:24 » |
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I was always told that Customer Hosts cannot insist on seeing your tickets as they are not "authorised persons" i.e. not revenue trained.
obviously the TM‡ is.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 10:31:24 » |
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I was always told that Customer Hosts cannot insist on seeing your tickets probably true, but they can ask and if you don;t show they can fetch the TM‡. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 10:43:46 » |
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And refuse to offer you their First Class freebies!
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 13:18:42 » |
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Travelling back from Southampton to Reading on Saturday night, we did not get checked once! Even though the TM‡ walked through the carriage, asking for tickets from thouse that had joined, dispite getting out tickets out every time, not once did he slow down enough to check them. Its no wonder so many people get away with travelling without correct tickets and therefore putting the fares up for the rest of us.
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