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StuartStIves
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« on: October 22, 2010, 22:52:38 » |
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The current 0728 St Ives to St Erth will run 10 minutes earlier from 13 December. Does anyone no why as if it still departed at 0728 it would still make the connections for Penzance and Paddington.
The 0700 St Ives to St Erth goes completely, but this was a remnant of the days when Cross Country still had a train from St Erth at 0736. It hasn't connected with anything for a number of years.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 23:37:52 » |
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Has it got anything to do with the sleeper coming through earlier ?
St Ives branch has done many odd things in the past like timetabling to just miss St Erth connections but when speed was not a particular issue drives usually made sure people got where they were intending to go.
The stopping patterns can be a bit frustrating and I've seen folk stuck on the train as it shuttles up and down trying to get off only too see their station pass by.
Good to see the line doing so well now - revenue collection is as good as you'll see anywhere - nice to see groupsave offered (occasionally) on what is quite an expensive trip. (worth it for the view)
Seeing the volume of people coming into St Ives by train I wonder if an earlier start on summer sundays would would work - nothing before midday.
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jester
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 23:44:55 » |
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Summer sundays always begin at 9a.m. form the Penzance end? Its winter when they go back to midday..!
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 00:04:46 » |
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Summer sundays always begin at 9a.m. form the Penzance end? Its winter when they go back to midday..!
Not surprising I missed that as I work sundays  |
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 00:11:03 » |
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The 0700 St Ives to St Erth goes completely, but this was a remnant of the days when Cross Country still had a train from St Erth at 0736. It hasn't connected with anything for a number of years.
I'd put money on XC▸ not crossing the Albert Bridge next year. |
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StuartStIves
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 19:48:01 » |
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Not about the sleeper. That will depart St Erth 0746 from the December timetable change, except Mondays when it departs 0844 and an XC▸ service departs at 0746 instead. The current 0728 from St Ives is timetabled to arrive St Erth at 0741 and is often 2 minutes early, so there would be no problem making that connection if it continued at this time after the timetable change.
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StuartStIves
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 20:04:16 » |
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Summer sundays always begin at 9a.m. form the Penzance end? Its winter when they go back to midday..!
With Cornwall Council possibly withdrawing Sunday Bus Services (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11581472 ) perhaps First Great Western will see a business opportunity for running St Ives branch Sunday mornings all year round. Apart from National Express Coaches, the branch line may become the only public transport St Ives has on a Sunday (unless McNulty cuts that too). |
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2010, 19:59:48 » |
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I would expect they would reduce bus frequency on inter - urban routes like St Ives - PNZ on Sundays (every 2hrs in winter ?) rather than scrap the whole route, does Cornwall Council contract specific journeys with bus companies or use some other "block" type payments ?
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JayMac
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2010, 23:08:20 » |
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The 0700 St Ives to St Erth goes completely, but this was a remnant of the days when Cross Country still had a train from St Erth at 0736. It hasn't connected with anything for a number of years.
I'd put money on XC▸ not crossing the Albert Bridge next year. I'll take that bet. CrossCountry have a Franchise Service Level Commitment to adhere to. There's been no discussion, as far as I'm aware, with the DfT» , for a change to the Franchise Agreement for the May or December 2011 timetables. XC would have to get a hurry on to request such changes. I'm not sure the DfT would accede to a request for XC to remove Cornwall from its timetable. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 00:51:10 » |
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The 0700 St Ives to St Erth goes completely, but this was a remnant of the days when Cross Country still had a train from St Erth at 0736. It hasn't connected with anything for a number of years.
I'd put money on XC▸ not crossing the Albert Bridge next year. I'll take that bet. CrossCountry have a Franchise Service Level Commitment to adhere to. There's been no discussion, as far as I'm aware, with the DfT» , for a change to the Franchise Agreement for the May or December 2011 timetables. XC would have to get a hurry on to request such changes. I'm not sure the DfT would accede to a request for XC to remove Cornwall from its timetable. have already taken on the 17:55 service down from Plymouth that XC used to run, last winter the 08:30 from PNZ often failed to appear citing crew problems. Puzzles me how XC ever got the franchise as I quite liked the Virgin setup - all a bit whackey. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 11:08:25 » |
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Puzzles me how XC▸ ever got the franchise as I quite liked the Virgin setup - all a bit whackey.
DfT» wrote the current XC timetable AFAICT▸ . The move to a standardised hourly timetable (eg all Bournemouth services going to Man Picc) with all nearly all the odd calls at the extremities cancelled was basically specified by the ITT▸ . Paul |
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 15:06:56 » |
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The 06.37 Penzance - St Ives and 07.00 St Ives - St Erth are most likely withdrawn owing to lack of use  |
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StuartStIves
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 21:07:08 » |
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The 06.37 Penzance - St Ives and 07.00 St Ives - St Erth are most likely withdrawn owing to lack of use 0637 is replaced by an 0655 Penzance to St Ives. Bizarrely this is timetabled to arrive St Ives 0717 and gives a one minute turnround to form the 0718 to St Erth! Can't help thinking that if it was still the 0728 to St Erth this might be a bit more resiliant. |
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StuartStIves
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 21:13:50 » |
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I would expect they would reduce bus frequency on inter - urban routes like St Ives - PNZ on Sundays (every 2hrs in winter ?) rather than scrap the whole route, does Cornwall Council contract specific journeys with bus companies or use some other "block" type payments ?
Devon have withdrawn all sunday buses to Kingsbridge apart from two a day to/from Totnes and Exeter. The more regular Sunday buses between Kingsbridge and Plymouth/Dartmouth have been totally withdrawn. Bet they wished the Kingsbridge branch line was still open. |
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vacman
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2010, 20:32:18 » |
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The currently hourly Penzance to St Ives Sunday bus service is actually pretty well used!
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