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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2010, 20:02:40 »
News report including footage of the event.  Notice that Mark Hopwood takes the opportunity to stick the knife into the air competition!

http://www.itv.com/westcountry-west/high-speed-links96876/
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2010, 20:38:58 »
saw it on spotlight, all sounds a big publicity stunt to me
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2010, 22:03:32 »
Isn't that more or less the point though  Huh Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2010, 22:06:57 »
So.. does anyone know if any Heathrow express trains were held up to let this train break it's record attempt?  Shocked Wink
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2010, 23:07:29 »
2h17 was BRs▸ (British Rail(ways)) 1985 record...

Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/blade5859#p/u/39/ZXNuGG9NhXo
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2010, 02:00:16 »
So? Was this a record breaking run or not? Archive seems to suggest that BR▸ (British Rail(ways)) were faster back in 1985.
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2010, 03:35:05 »
Quote from: bignosemac on October 14, 2010, 02:00:16
So? Was this a record breaking run or not? Archive seems to suggest that BR▸ (British Rail(ways)) were faster back in 1985.

I'm guessing it's like Virgin's record-breaking non-stop Glasgow to London, without knowing the facts I'd best-guess that the 1985 record was PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) rather than PLY-PAD.
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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2010, 07:45:08 »
In reality the limitatations imposed by the real world timetable/infrastructure/trains and the usual operating problems mean that this will remain an aspiration.For instance the Down "Hind" 1803 Padd/Penzance hardly ever arrives on time in Plymouth.Still good publicity for FGW▸ (First Great Western) if nothing slse.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2010, 07:49:31 »
I can testify to the 'down' Hind not keeping to time. Last night (13/10) it was 7 late into T**nt*n. Missed my unofficial connection back up to Bristol as a consequence!
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2010, 09:13:25 »
Quote from: johoare on October 13, 2010, 22:06:57
So.. does anyone know if any Heathrow express trains were held up to let this train break it's record attempt?  Shocked Wink

Err.... so what if one was? Airport Junction is a converging junction for up trains on a very busy line so HEX's and FGW▸ (First Great Western) trains get held up all the time.  Maybe trains were held up at Reading too.  I frequently get held up leaving Reading towards Didcot for Freightliner trains crossing at Reading West Junction, and they aren't even on a record-breaking attempt (unless it's for how many pass trains they can hold up!)
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2010, 10:57:56 »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11530981
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2010, 11:00:02 »
Quote from: devon_metro on October 13, 2010, 23:07:29
2h17 was BRs▸ (British Rail(ways)) 1985 record...

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Before the days of data recorders! surely it wouldn't be possible to do it in 2h17 by keeping to the speed limits!
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2010, 11:31:52 »
Hi,

I'm always interested in such record attempts.

The article says the journey took 2h 43m.  Does anyone know what the current quickest possible is?  I assumes such runs obey the normal speed restrictions or are there some extra allowances given for special runs like this?

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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2010, 11:34:42 »
They tend to obey any restrictions (but usually run when they are at their minimum number, for obvious reasons!) - but only carry a few people.

Comment elsewhere indicates that it was seen running shorter formed as a 5car, rather than 7 or 8 car.
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2010, 12:38:31 »
passengers carried were local business delegates i believe
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