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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2022, 12:27:23 » |
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Very impressive, in particular the amount of space available if compared to the hospital trains of the last war. Standard looking wheeled hospital beds rather than fixed bunks. On board oxygen production rather than being reliant on cylinders of limited capacity.
And how many hospital trains does the UK▸ have available in case of war or other emergency ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2022, 12:48:24 » |
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And how many hospital trains does the UK▸ have available in case of war or other emergency ?
None. But as we demonstrated with the nightingale hospitals during the pandemic, if there was an major emergency then I’m pretty sure we could convert an existing train in a similar amount of time. That’s if such a facility was needed, as the transportation distances for the wounded would be far less than what the Ukrainian’s are facing. |
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2022, 12:50:13 » |
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Very impressive, in particular the amount of space available if compared to the hospital trains of the last war. Standard looking wheeled hospital beds rather than fixed bunks. On board oxygen production rather than being reliant on cylinders of limited capacity.
And how many hospital trains does the UK▸ have available in case of war or other emergency ?
Built to a much bigger loading gauge than British coaching stock And I don't think there's much spare coaching stock anywhere in the system these days. Unless you count heritage railways and the Royal Train |
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2022, 16:58:34 » |
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Very impressive, in particular the amount of space available if compared to the hospital trains of the last war. Standard looking wheeled hospital beds rather than fixed bunks. On board oxygen production rather than being reliant on cylinders of limited capacity.
And how many hospital trains does the UK▸ have available in case of war or other emergency ?
Under what scenario could hospital trains possibly be needed in the UK? |
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2022, 17:23:43 » |
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Under what scenario could hospital trains possibly be needed in the UK▸ ?
The art of thinking about the unthinkable? From rail.co.ukA look at the Dunkirk Dynamo rail operations 75 years ago
How the railways evacuated 300,000 troops from Channel Ports
The United Kingdom and France have just celebrated the 75th anniversary of ‘The miracle of Dunkirk’, the evacuation over several days of 300,000 troops from the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) in France back to the English Channel ports.
But what part did the railways play in this epic event 75 years ago? To start with, the BEF was conveyed under planned arrangements to the Channel Ports for embarkation by train as were nine Ambulance trains out of the 25 such trains that existed at that time
I dread to think of wounded troops returning in the future ... |
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2022, 18:18:18 » |
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AFAIK▸ , the only other trains with on board oxygen production equipment are those used on this extreme altitude line in China, https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/china-tibet/#:~:text=With%20its%20highest%20point%20at,plateau%20railway%20in%20the%20world.In that case the oxygen is not for hospital purposes but for ordinary passengers to breath, as the air is too thin to reliably sustain life. A fit person could survive, but not the average rail passenger.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2022, 18:25:36 » |
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Very impressive, in particular the amount of space available if compared to the hospital trains of the last war. Standard looking wheeled hospital beds rather than fixed bunks. On board oxygen production rather than being reliant on cylinders of limited capacity.
And how many hospital trains does the UK▸ have available in case of war or other emergency ?
Under what scenario could hospital trains possibly be needed in the UK? Terrorist nuclear weapon used in London or other major urban center. Very large scale terrorist attack with thousands of casualties. Large natural disaster such as flooding worse than the East Coast floods of 1953, with hospitals in worst affected areas under water. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2022, 20:09:53 » |
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23 days! In Britain they wouldn't have got to GRIP▸ level 1 in that time!
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2022, 20:20:20 » |
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Under what scenario could hospital trains possibly be needed in the UK▸ ?
The art of thinking about the unthinkable? From rail.co.ukA look at the Dunkirk Dynamo rail operations 75 years ago
How the railways evacuated 300,000 troops from Channel Ports
The United Kingdom and France have just celebrated the 75th anniversary of ‘The miracle of Dunkirk’, the evacuation over several days of 300,000 troops from the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) in France back to the English Channel ports.
But what part did the railways play in this epic event 75 years ago? To start with, the BEF was conveyed under planned arrangements to the Channel Ports for embarkation by train as were nine Ambulance trains out of the 25 such trains that existed at that time
I dread to think of wounder troops returning in the future ... I think one thing you can be pretty sure of is that their return wouldn't be by sea to the Channel Ports in future. |
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2022, 22:32:19 » |
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23 days! In Britain they wouldn't have got to GRIP▸ level 1 in that time!
That was my first thought. Except... If you have your mind concentrated by something is big, scary, and previously unimaginable as Putin's malign scheming has visited on Ukraine, I think you'll be surprised by what you can achieve. We all know when that last happened here, and some pretty amazing things were done in response - not least in keeping the railways running. While the railways' culture may now be less can-do than it was before that war, I don't see why the response would be so much different today. |
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2023, 06:44:09 » |
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shown on Sky news at 06:39am ish on Sunday morning how the engineer keeps those big engines going.
Should be on i-player some where.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2023, 17:44:02 » |
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No it isn't as Sky News isn't a BBC» channel, nor does Sky have any equivalent for Sky News.
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2023, 19:04:46 » |
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What are you on about?
If you don't like my posting/s
don't read them
45 "looks" and one negative comment,I rest my case.
Suggest you put me on your ignore list,
if this facility is available on this message board.
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2023, 20:58:41 » |
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I read your post which referred to this piece being on i-player.
That is a BBC» product which only has BBC content, not Sky. So I was advising others from trying to find it, not commenting on your info
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2023, 21:42:54 » |
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Suggest you put me on your ignore list,
if this facility is available on this message board.
There IS an ignore list on this forum, though it only works for personal messages. Just five members have it as anything other than blank in their profiles, and all of them are long gone. So no-one ignores anyone these days. Probably should not disclose such data, but love it - Utopia !? Edit to add - just noticed that one of the five is just set to ignore himself. Ah - I smiled; love the sense of humour there. |
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