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Author Topic: Trespass incident between Paddington and Reading causing problems (6/10/2010)  (Read 13400 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 23:54:37 »

some more for ya.
 
RIO (Rail Incident Officer) - Rail Incident Officer: The nominated and certificated person charged with the role of on site command and control of all rail related organisations and their support at an incident involving train operations, lines or sidings.

TOLO (Train Operator Liaison Officer) - Train Operator Liaison Officer: The person appointed by a Train (or Freight) Operating Company as their lead representative at an accident site.

SIO (Station Incident Officer) - Station Incident Officer: The person appointed by a Station Operating Company as their lead representative at an incident/ accident centred at a station premises.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2010, 00:00:01 »

Erm ... thanks again!  Tongue

I'll add them all to the list!

CfN.  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2010, 09:30:21 »

To add insult to injury the 17:18 overtook us on the fast lines at Southall, almost empty.

That was because a lot of the people who had crushed on it had been thinking that it was the Henly train, so when the info screen came on and the driver announced that it was first stop Maidenhead, the Slough passengers rushed off.



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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2010, 10:36:58 »

The 16:00 BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) never got dispatched and was cancelled. It was then turned into the 16:30 and then every commuter under the sun decided to get on that one train. TM(resolve) Refused to take it on safety grounds.

Not to call order issued for RDG(resolve) (but it did stop there).
All platforms all over the place, trains all over the place.
The 16:00 now 16:30 left at around 17:10.

Loads of westbury people tried to get on assuming that because every other day of the week it goes from platform 8, it would today. READ THE SCREENS this is a Bristol train, no its not the westbury train.

When I arrived at Paddington at about 16:55 I saw that train in Platform 8 thinking it might be the 17:06 but I did read the screens!  Smiley  Yes it was very full but I've seen worse, I don't know exactly why the TM refused to take it? However by that time the 17:00 to BRI was on the screens so maybe people had transferred to it. (indeed if my memory serves me right it actually left before the 16:30!)

One other example of the chaos - the 17:15 to Swansea departed from Platform 10 and went on the relief line to Acton where my 17:06 overtook it on the main. (and then no doubt the 17:15 was further delayed whilst the 17:06 called at Twyford!)


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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2010, 22:56:14 »

Certain TMs(resolve) will refuse to take a train on Health and Safety grounds if in their sole opinion the train is too overcrowded.
The TM is afterall in charge of the train, and if there is an incident its their head on the block if something happens because they took an overcrowded train.
Other TMs will not care about Coaches A-E, so as long as they can get to their snug/buffet car.
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2010, 09:26:34 »

T/M s can indeed refuse to take a train for a number of reasons, overcrowding being one of them, they need to have access to a PA (Public Address) and there kit and strangly enough that is normally the Buffet, leaving pad... if Standard class is full and standing its not normally a problem say from if travelling  to Reading .but becomes more of an issue if SDO (Selective Door Opening) has to come into play......ideally i personally do not like working trains where anyone is standing, but at peak times and times of disruption this is impractical  as people just want to get home....its a balanced decision that the T/M needs to make, what if this or that happens can i get to this ....because if something does go horribly wrong everyone will look to the T/M to sort it out and lead from the front..and thus if he/she feels unable to do this for a variety of reasons a refusal to work the train is the only option.

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2010, 00:19:34 »

So who decides if Turbos are too full then? Surely not the driver?
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2010, 07:11:48 »

Probably the Driver...just another benefit of DOOP operation
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