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« on: September 06, 2010, 23:42:16 » |
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I'm just posting this in advance.. I know Muse are playing Wembley Stadium on Saturday night (as I'm going).. I know last time I saw Muse play there and there was also a concert in Hyde Park on the same night, the trains out of Paddington to Maidenhead were so full I couldn't get on the first one.. And some people didn't get on the second one either.. I'm sure I posted that here at the time.. And if I wasn't so tired/lazy.. I'd look for it...  Well it appears there is a Hyde Park Concert this Saturday night too.. So I'm sure there will be no extra trains.. I will have 3 16 year olds with me... Last time the train home (once I got on one) made me feel very ill.. I'm kind of dreading it.. I'm hoping FGW▸ have done some sort of better planning this time? But don't hold out much hope... |
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willc
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 00:24:16 » |
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Well, they may have a plan but whether they will actually share it with anyone is another matter entirely, like the non-existent publicity for some fairly sensible alterations made for the Big Chill festival in Herefordshire last month (or when Oxford United played at Wembley in May). You would like to think they would have 3+3 Turbo formations or the odd extra HST▸ out there late on Saturday but you'll probably only find out on the night. Meanwhile Chiltern are busy letting anyone who wants to know that they're running a special timetable for the Muse concerts at Wembley...
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johoare
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 00:28:31 » |
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Well last time I checked Chiltern (because it's not impossible for me to get home somehow from High Wycombe via Wembley station (the wembley Stadium station i think)).. the timetable out of London was rubbish for Saturday night.. Has it changed in the last day or so?
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johoare
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 00:37:50 » |
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Ok... From what I can see (on the chiltern railways site), they are running extra trains to the concert.. Does anyone know if they are running extra trains to get people home afterwards? To be honest we all have all day to get there.. Leaving at 11pm.. on a Saturday night service.. I think it's more important we know if we'll get home or not. I might be missing something tho.. |
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johoare
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 00:43:41 » |
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OK I've finally found some trains.. They weren't on NR» planner the other day.. Will check tomorrow (too tired now) to see if they are on there now..
but 23.07 to 23.44 (High Wycombe)
23.22 to 00.01 (High Wycombe)
23.32 to 00.07 (HW)
which are probably the trains I;d get to avoid the nasty full ones out of Paddington.. As long as they won't be nasty full ones....
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Ollie
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 00:46:23 » |
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One of the issues of doing extra trains for events such as Muse (which I am going to on the Friday) is that FGW▸ can't guarantee they will actually get used.
Chiltern know that whenever an event is on they will get used no matter what for the obvious reason that they serve Wembley Stadium.
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JayMac
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 01:08:59 » |
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I'm sure the concert will be 'bliss' and leave you 'feeling good'. Weather is overcast on Saturday so 'sunburn' shouldn't be an issue. Trains maybe busy but I doubt there'll be 'hysteria'. I thank you. |
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"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 01:11:23 » |
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In the time-honoured manner: "Your coat, sir?"  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 02:39:07 » |
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If you can work "plug-in baby" into that paragraph I will be exceedingly impressed...  Saw them play in Philadelphia in March and (to use the local vernacular) they were awesome - you'll have a great time. |
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willc
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 17:51:05 » |
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One of the issues of doing extra trains for events such as Muse (which I am going to on the Friday) is that FGW▸ can't guarantee they will actually get used. But if Jo observed a very large passenger flow the last time this conjunction of events occurred, surely someone within FGW might also have done so, or noted a spike in ticket sales on the day in question and explored the likely reasons for it so you can be ready to maximise revenue when similar circumstances occur in future. Let's face it, there are always likely to be large flows of passengers throughout London when there are large-capacity events - Wembley concert capacity is 75,000 and Hyde Park is 45,000 or so, many of whom will likely be travelling from areas served by FGW. Trains out of Paddington on a Saturday evening aren't exactly quiet (in every sense) the rest of the time, are they? A pdf of the full Chiltern timetable for Saturday, including extra trains, extra stops by other services at Wembley and Marylebone-Wembley shuttles before and after the concert is online at the changes to train times page at their website. |
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Ollie
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 17:59:07 » |
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I just doubt there would be a business case to plan in advance, I'd guess it's monitored and they may do what has been done in the past and get an additional if required.
No doubt if there is that much concern about it fire of an email to customer services to forward it on =]
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johoare
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 17:59:51 » |
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I think I might have e-mailed FGW▸ after the last time so I am SURE they know exactly how busy it's going to be Saturday evening.. I'm just hoping they will do something about it..
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Fish
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 23:02:34 » |
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Unfortunately, due to the engineering works associated with the Remodelling of Reading, all lines are closed overnight Sat thru Sun almost every weekend. As a result, NR» will not release any more paths for extra trains along the line. I dare say there could be a possible case to run extras to Maidenhead, but certainly nothing beyond. The last train from Reading on the Saturday night of the Rock Festival was 0003 when the music stopped at midnight. FGW▸ tried all avenues to get extra trains, but were denied because of the engineering works scheduled (though extra trains were able to run on Sunday night which was also very busy).
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Btline
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2010, 23:28:40 » |
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If FGW▸ don't put on the trains, there will be an "uprising".
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willc
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 11:15:10 » |
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Even if you can't run extras, you can at the very least add extra coaches on the trains that are allowed to run out to Reading (Chiltern add coaches to their services as well as running Wembley extras) - it's not as if there aren't spare FGW▸ Turbos at weekends - or even use an HST▸ instead to provide the added capacity which Jo is suggesting is needed.
It may well be the case that FGW does plan to do something along these lines this weekend, but why is it that they never seem to want to tell people about these arrangements when they do make them, which might encourage more people to use their trains and bring in even more money?
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