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« on: August 22, 2010, 14:31:56 »

Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK (United Kingdom)?

35000 mm
2000 mm
1500 mm
1067 mm
914 mm
825 mm
185 mm with a passenger carrying HST (High Speed Train) on it

(Cheating a bit here; arguably only two that I have found is in FGW (First Great Western) territory, but I suspect there will be lots of matches I don't know about.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 14:51:57 »

I'll do some digging.



Lappa Valley Cornwall Main Line is 350mm, Newlyn Branch is 260mm, and Woodland railway is 185mm but the HST (High Speed Train) is an APT (Advanced Passenger Train), could be this your 185mm line?

Some to rule Out.

Lyton & Lynmouth is 3ft 9in (approx 1143mm)

Launceston Steam Railway, and Lynton & Barnstaple Railway both 1ft 11 1/2 in (approx 600mm)

Didcot railway centre Broad gauge is 7ft 1/4in (2140mm)

35000mm crumbs You sure? That's about 115ft!
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 15:02:07 »

914mm can be found on the Manx Electric Railway.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 15:17:40 »

Err ... yes, the 185mm was quoted as being a "High Speed Train" and I guess I should have looked further at pictures to see if it was a High Speed Train or just a high speed train.  I'm pretty sure of the 35000 gauge - although I haven't taken a tape measure to it (nor paced it out!).  And I had something much more obscure for the 914 mm.   Turns out there's a surprising variety about!
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 15:28:16 »


185 mm with an HST (High Speed Train) is the Lappa Valley Railway - who also have an Advanced Passenger Train (APT (Advanced Passenger Train))!

825mm is Volks Electric Railway in Brighton

914mm could be the Southend Pier Railway, The Manx Electric Railway or The Isle of Man Steam Railway

1067mm is the Camborne & Redruth Tramway, Great Orme Tramway or Snaefell Mountain Railway

2000mm is the Caingorm Mountain Railway

... I'm still working on the other two!!!
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 17:17:16 »

Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK (United Kingdom)?

35000 mm
Don't know where exactly but something like a large dock-side container crane (eg at Southampton or Devonport?) or perhaps in a dry dock?
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 17:34:04 »

Where can you find rails with the following gauges in the UK (United Kingdom)?

35000 mm
Don't know where exactly but something like a large dock-side container crane (eg at Southampton or Devonport?) or perhaps in a dry dock?

I reckon a guage that big has to be a Railway shed or Works Travellator, used to remove large number of Points.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2010, 18:22:32 »

914mm could also be the Southwold Railway.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 18:36:38 »

914mm could also be the Southwold Railway.

It could have been but it closed in 1929 and Graham was asking where would you find lines with that gauge now!
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 18:42:19 »

Exactly!

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Although the line closed in 1929, its track was still marked and identified on a 1933 Ordnance Survey map, a navigable version of which is accessible in the external links section. Some track can still be found on the harbour branch and a surviving wagon is at the East Anglian transport museum (Carlton Colville).

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 18:51:28 »

Lets' see what I had:

185mm - Lappa Valley Railway
825mm - Volks Electric Railway
914mm - Actually I had a different one, much further North ... and indeed I wasn't necessarily thinking open, or even with all the track in place
1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet
1500mm - come on folks ...
2000mm - CaiRngorm Mountain Railway
35000mm - MrC is on the right lines
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 18:55:37 »

1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet

East Cornwall Mineral Railway?  Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 19:07:47 »

1067mm - Yes, Great Orme ... and I had another that no-one has come up with yet

East Cornwall Mineral Railway?  Tongue

There's proving to have been quite a few at 1067mm! The one I came up with is still running with a capacity of around 3600 passengers per day.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 20:29:36 »

1500mm - East Hill Cliff Railway, Hastings
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 20:53:48 »

1500mm - East Hill Cliff Railway, Hastings

Yes - that's the one I had.  Seems quite a rare gauge!
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