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« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2011, 09:39:36 »

Ah, missed that first week but is it really necessary to have to trawl the entire calendar of engineering work to find this out?

They don't even mention it on the news notice about March 11 and there's nothing on the Mainline webpages, even though there is a section headed 'ongoing (ugh!) schedule for 2011' on the 'latest progress' page. Your average passenger might like to know about two weeks of disruption, even if it is timed to coincide with Easter school holidays and a certain wedding.
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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2011, 09:48:42 »

There are large acrylic posters up at all Chiltern stations that mention it....
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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2011, 10:10:59 »

So why not the equivalent on the website as well?
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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2011, 10:19:59 »

IF you go to those dates on their works calendar, it's there.
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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2011, 14:58:05 »

I'm with Will on this one.  I think any major changes to weekday schedules should be prominently displayed on the website home page - even if it's just a prominent warning and a 'check back later for more details message'.  Chiltern's website is not very well laid out in that respect, when compared with, for example, FGW (First Great Western)'s.
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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2011, 15:41:43 »

Agree about their layout, BUT it is late April. Bit soon for a front page splash....

Those planning that far ahead would expect to check within the site, I think. I certainly do.
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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2011, 00:32:24 »

In 2009, FGW (First Great Western) did a publicity blitz very early in the year about the Cotswold Line closures, presumably to help nudge people to time their summer holidays to coincide with the blockade.

And people who aren't tied in to school holidays might well opt for a fortnight off to avoid the Chiltern blockade (plus that wedding and all the messed-up weeks around that time due to bank holidays). Some may well have noticed the posters at stations but it has become apparent to me that others pass by posters time and time again without taking in what they say. The more ways you can get the message over as early as possible, the better. FGW's efforts over the Reading closure were a pretty good example of how to do it, I'd say.
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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2011, 09:15:42 »

Yup - Even they left Reading off the FGW (First Great Western) front opage until a month before....and the upcoming blockade on the Cotswolds is nowhere to be obviously seen either....
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« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2011, 00:34:48 »

First Chiltern Class 172 had a day out from Derby at Wembley depot, picture here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36593372@N04/5453933190/
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« Reply #54 on: February 18, 2011, 16:47:37 »

Good job they now won't be needed until late summer. 

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/news/chiltern-mainline-announcement-0

As I feared, Chiltern were trying to do too much in too short a time!
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« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2011, 17:40:09 »

Although disappointing, this is undoubtedly the right move. I always thought they'd be cutting it fine! The reduction of weekend closures is most welcome as it is a major annoyance to leisure travellers.
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« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2011, 09:15:55 »

They need to decide on March 11 closure & confietrm either way.
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« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2011, 18:18:42 »

Geoff Plumb has uploaded some new pics of the work at Princes Risborough - I suggest the three new down signals (and feathers) on the gantry confirm that the up main through line is after all the debate fully signalled for down movements:

http://plumbloco.smugmug.com/Trains/July2011/17899092_5TpMcd#P-1-9

(9th picture onwards)

I though it best to stick to the existing thread, although it's a few months old now...

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« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2011, 10:19:14 »

Nope, don't agree.

This Photo clearly shows just signal heads on that gantry - that'll be for the platform lines. THere would be a third up there if the UP through was reversible (and it wouldn't be called the 'Up through line' either.
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« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2011, 12:33:33 »

Try pictures 9, 12 or 13 though, from the up platform point of view. 

AFAICS ('as far as I can see') they show that the Down line has a two aperture four aspect LED main running signal, with no feather, so one main route. (There's almost certainly a position light to the left but bagged over.)
The Up Through line has a single aperture LED three aspect main signal and a position 1 feather to the down main, so the main route is to the up reversible line.
The Up platform line has a single aperture LED three aspect signal, a position 1 feather as before, and a position 4 feather for the Aylesbury branch.

Specifically picture 9.  The bag over the down line signal head is the same size as a conventional three aspect head - with LED signals this is required for the double yellow spacing, but the other two out of use signals are both small in comparison as they only need the one aperture.

Also, as pointed out in post #29 by SandTEngineer:

"The use of the terminology [eg Up through] is only for line identification purposes and is used to define the predominate direction of traffic.  This is irrelevant for operational and signalling purposes."

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