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Author Topic: Cotswold Line journeys operated by Turbos - planned and HST substitutions  (Read 36515 times)
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« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2010, 16:13:13 »

1551 Pad to Worcester a 3 car turbo rather than 8car HST (High Speed Train) again tonight (according to FGW (First Great Western) updates)

15:51 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 18:07
This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
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So a change of plans for me tonight. Was hoping we had seen the end of these.

Also the 1750

17:50 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:23
This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
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« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2010, 15:21:14 »

... and again today, apparently - from FGW (First Great Western) live updates:

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This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
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17:50 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 20:23
This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.
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« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2010, 16:36:35 »

Beaten to it, was just going to add "and again tonight" !

Typical to short form trains on a friday when they are busier anyway.
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« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2010, 13:18:26 »

Both worked by refreshed 165s.

Will be distinctly unpleasant if this is the best they can manage next Friday but given that they apparently weren't expecting large passenger loadings during the Big Chill Festival they probably won't be expecting many people to travel over a bank holiday weekend either.

I gather that all three Turbo services from Malvern/Worcester in the morning and early afternoon on the Monday after the festival were very cosy indeed...
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« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2010, 23:38:16 »

Will be distinctly unpleasant if this is the best they can manage next Friday but given that they apparently weren't expecting large passenger loadings during the Big Chill Festival they probably won't be expecting many people to travel over a bank holiday weekend either.

So that would be why the 13:21 was a HST (High Speed Train) instead of a Turbo then...
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« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2010, 14:08:44 »

Will be distinctly unpleasant if this is the best they can manage next Friday but given that they apparently weren't expecting large passenger loadings during the Big Chill Festival they probably won't be expecting many people to travel over a bank holiday weekend either.

So that would be why the 13:21 was a HST (High Speed Train) instead of a Turbo then...

Which day was that?

And sadly, something like that is the exception, not the rule, which is the reverse alteration, as happened twice this week on the same day to two peak trains, which are rather more in need of an HST than the 13.21 usually is. Though it would come in handy next Friday, as would the booked 125s actually being provided for the 15.51 and 17.50! We shall see...
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« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2010, 22:36:53 »

5th August - 13:21 HST (High Speed Train) vice Turbo - according to IndustryInsider was full and standing so lucky it was an HST.
The 15:51 was thankfully a HST as booked, and according to the long standing user you spoke to it "wasn't pleasant. Absolutely packed."
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« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2010, 23:32:09 »

Sorry, Ollie - you've misunderstood my post.  It was a Turbo as usual - could have done with being a HST (High Speed Train) though!
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« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2010, 00:01:03 »

Sorry, Ollie - you've misunderstood my post.  It was a Turbo as usual - could have done with being a HST (High Speed Train) though!
Was it? I'm sure I saw somewhere about it being HST..me goes to check..
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« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2010, 00:06:27 »

Attached is a bit of the service performance log for the 5th August showing that the 13:21 was an HST (High Speed Train).
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« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2010, 00:12:37 »

Ah, well I stand corrected then!

I must admit I never actually saw the train, just that it was steadily losing time en-route and was being announced as full and standing, so I just presumed it was a Turbo struggling to cope as usual.  Due praise must be given to FGW (First Great Western) in that case then!
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« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2010, 00:17:43 »

Ah, well I stand corrected then!

I must admit I never actually saw the train, just that it was steadily losing time en-route and was being announced as full and standing, so I just presumed it was a Turbo struggling to cope as usual.  Due praise must be given to FGW (First Great Western) in that case then!
Yeah was also planned to do same for the Friday, but that didn't go ahead due to the severe disruption caused by the Tilehurst cable theft.
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« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2010, 01:19:28 »

Thanks, Ollie, for that very helpful information and useful explanation.  C.  Smiley
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« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2010, 01:58:46 »

Clearly someone deserves a pat on the back for doing that but once again we find FGW (First Great Western) not actually bothering to announce it was making a useful change to its service. And it doesn't exactly square with the statement from the press office in its comments about the pot-heads incident on the 11.22 that same day: "The train was busier than we expected." Make your minds up.
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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2010, 02:24:48 »

You evidently have... Wink

I don't think it's entirely fair to assume that FGW (First Great Western)'s operations staff weren't expecting additional passengers due to the festival just on the basis of a talking head from the press office getting a case of foot-in-mouth.
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