How do TM's balance what one passenger wants

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[dog box]

Safety of the train is most important...but if i get a request that someone is making too much noise and i consider that request to be of a reasonable nature the offender would be politely told...........anyway F/A its a wonder you can hear to do anything which resembles work on a 143 and i bet you were dreaming it was a turbo as well{ only joking}

[Henry]

 You are fortunate that it wasn't concussion, believe me if it was you would not of remembered the incident.
 
 As a parent I can sympathise with both of you.
 There is probably no worse noise that a screaming baby, although perhaps the screaming wheels of a 143 must come a close second. Mother is probably stressed out trying to keep baby quiet, as much as you are trying to answer your life changing
 messages.

 There are times when it is just better to switch on the i-pod full blast, close eyes and detatch yourself from what is going on around you - you cannot be in control all the time.

[Tim]

mainly because the chelsea 4x4 pram could not get through)

Do I remember you admitting somewhere that you drive a real 4x4 on the road?

[Mookiemoo]

 You are fortunate that it wasn't concussion, believe me if it was you would not of remembered the incident.

It was - I got it checked out.

Was ok the same night but woke up with double vision, a blinding headache and outrageous nausea.  Also, have an almighty egg right behind my left ear.

Was like a hangover without the prior benefit of being drunk.

[caliwag]

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[Mookiemoo]

mainly because the chelsea 4x4 pram could not get through)

Do I remember you admitting somewhere that you drive a real 4x4 on the road?

Yes - but that needs to be put into context of (1) where I lived and (2) I run a company so its tax efficient to do so

[Tim]

Er,

1) you live in England, not the jungle
2) the fact that it is tax efficient just makes it worse (ie, you are being undertaxed compared with other tax payers)

if you want the freedom to drive a 4x4 car (and I wouldn't seek to deny anyone that freedom) it is a bit rich to deny someone else the freedom to have a 4x4 pram.

Personally, I'd rather parents pushed a large pram on public transport than put it and their kids in yet another 4x4 car on the road.

I'd rather spend 14 minutes on a train with a screaming child than 14 minutes on a train with someone who is "out of order" by which I assume you mean unnecesarily agressive.  The first is anoying the second frightening.

Sorry, but I side with the TM^‡(resolve).

[matt473]

To be honest, the age of the child could also make a huge difference as a very young child or a teething child would likely scream as regardless of comfort they will cry regardless. Looking after children and stopping them from crying is far from easy.

On the 4x4 note, I as well as many others are believers that to own one is pure vanity unless there is a genuine need for it (living in teh country for example). You could easily of had a different car as opposed to a 4x4 if you really wanted to avoid tax that is less wasteful with fuel and takes up far less roadspace

[Mookiemoo]

I bought my 4x4 when I did genuinely need it

there were numerous days this year where my local roads were impassable to non 4x4.  I have spent - in the last 4 years, several days towing front wheel drive vehicles up the hill so they can get home.

If I lived where I do at the moment, I would not have considered a 4x4 but as I needed one at the time, getting it efficiently through the company made sense

However - should I sell a vehicle I now own outright having paid for it over 4 years and lose money to get a new one I don't need just because I moved?

And yes, I was out of order, I can't remember what I said outright but I do know it probably wished pain and suffering on her and her off spring however I never threatened violence or got in her face  She lamped me when I got my suitcase from under the wheels of her 4x4 pram.

and I admit I was out of order!

The issue was 0 she was not trying ANYTHING to get it to shut up.  Almost as though she was used to is so everyone else had to suffer it

[caliwag]

Jeez FA...sort your self out...go back to my post, change your attitude to people and life...sorry but for your own sanity, or stress will get you. Anyway why do you post this stuff on here?

[Mookiemoo]

Jeez FA...sort your self out...go back to my post, change your attitude to people and life...sorry but for your own sanity, or stress will get you. Anyway why do you post this stuff on here?

Why?

Because I am one of the non PC minorities who do not think children should have any more rights than another passenger...and  I get increasingly frustrated that some brat who has not paid for a ticket at all but takes up valuable space in a pram get more rights than I do

However this is not all I post about - its just one of my bug bears

[inspector_blakey]

Jeez FA...sort your self out... Anyway why do you post this stuff on here?

...follow the advice and you will be a calmer and better person.

I am not on commission...it just works for me.

Evidently.

[devon_metro]

Sorryto say it, but the way I see it is that FA considers herself to have more rights than anybody else. Children don't have to be quiet so doesn't suprise me the conductor ignored you.

[railwayfan]

Jeez FA...sort your self out...go back to my post, change your attitude to people and life...sorry but for your own sanity, or stress will get you. Anyway why do you post this stuff on here?

Why?

Because I am one of the non PC minorities who do not think children should have any more rights than another passenger...and  I get increasingly frustrated that some brat who has not paid for a ticket at all but takes up valuable space in a pram get more rights than I do

However this is not all I post about - its just one of my bug bears

Not the first time you have got into a ding dong with a mother with a baby and pushchair is it? I was reading another thread on here where you were giving it the big I am because a pushchair was in your way!




Edit note: I have amended railwayfan's quote marks, purely in the interests of clarity: see following post. Chris.

[caliwag]

Err...what sre you sying railway fan?