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« on: June 28, 2010, 00:22:57 »
I was looking at the Bristol Temple Meads live departure board on Saturday and I saw a National Express East Anglia service to Penzance. I was very suprised as you don't normally see those trains in the West.

It started at Tame Bridge Parkway and terminates at Penzance. There was also services from Penzance to Gloucester and London Paddington.

I thought it may be summer Saturday only services. Does anybody else know about them?
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 00:55:28 »
No, nothing of the sort. It's a strange bug in the system that for some reason often seems to show up charter trains as operate by NXEA▸ (National Express East Anglia) (at least in FGW▸ (First Great Western) territory, possibly elsewhere too).

Did you really think that NXEA would be running a summer Saturday service from Tame Bridge Parkway or Gloucester to Penzance, all of which are hundreds of miles outside their operating area? Wink
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 08:28:54 »
It's simply a way of allowing charter trains to appear in various live departure versions, they shouldn't really be on there.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 11:29:15 »
would have been interesting on the way home the 56's were 100 mins late threw taunton
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 16:56:18 »
Perhaps they didn't think about this when designing the system, but couldn't they have put an additional TOC▸ (Train Operating Company) in the system, e.g. Charter, which can be used for these purposes?
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 18:53:02 »
FGW▸ (First Great Western) doing it on the cheap again...

The ex-wessex system, which, for the time being is still at Cornish stations, has always allowed the TOC▸ (Train Operating Company) decription to be put as "Charter"
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 19:13:33 »
In fairness I don't think it's the FGW▸ (First Great Western) system at stations (which, as a passenger, I'd take over the ex-Wessex system absolutely any day of the week) but the National Rail live departure boards system online.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 19:39:53 »
Quote from: old original on June 28, 2010, 18:53:02
FGW▸ (First Great Western) doing it on the cheap again...


It has absolutely nothing to do with FGW.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 19:46:20 »
would have also been interesting to see an electric powered train try to get down to Penzance without wires!  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 20:18:38 »
"On the cheap" hardly bears scrutiny when looked at against the ongoing work to renew and install additional help points, same again for CCTV▸ (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) and last, but not least, replace the three CIS▸ (Customer Information System) systems with a single, new system and upgraded hardware. Slough and Oxford were the pilots for this project.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 23:08:34 »
Quote from: devon_metro on June 28, 2010, 19:39:53
Quote from: old original on June 28, 2010, 18:53:02
FGW▸ (First Great Western) doing it on the cheap again...


It has absolutely nothing to do with FGW.

I not so sure..

FGW has a system which doesn't allow "charter" to be input as a TOC▸ (Train Operating Company)
Wessex does....

you get what you pay for
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 23:16:32 »
old original, you're barking up completely the wrong tree here: the original poster's comment related to the online live departure boards system, which is provided and managed by ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) and completely independent of FGW▸ (First Great Western)'s station customer information system. Nobody has been told at an FGW station that a charter service is operated by NXEA▸ (National Express East Anglia).

The FGW system certainly allows notes to be manually added under the train in question. I'm really not sure though where you get this bizarre idea that the old Wessex system is superior to the FGW system, because from my experience it has always appeared to be the opposite!
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 06:49:39 »
Quote from: Rob T on June 28, 2010, 19:46:20
would have also been interesting to see an electric powered train try to get down to Penzance without wires!  Grin

Don't see why not ... an electric powered train made it to Minehead the weekend before last. The Hastings diesels - as I understand it - have electric traction motors which are powered by onboard diesel generators.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 15:45:01 »
Quote from: Rob T on June 28, 2010, 19:46:20
would have also been interesting to see an electric powered train try to get down to Penzance without wires!  Grin

I'm sure NXEA▸ (National Express East Anglia) wouldn't make such an elementary error and would use their 156s or 170s for this mystery excusion!  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 15:49:50 »
Or maybe they'd hire in a 47 from DRS▸ (Direct Rail Services Ltd) to tow a mark 3 set, if they were feeling extravagant Smiley
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