T cup reverts to the old circle ........

[whole diary]

[ChrisB]

Oh it's not far to come out through the bridge barriers & turn immediately left and walk 25 yeards to the northern LUL^▸ (London Underground Ltd) concourse....

[Electric train]

Loose sight of what the station looks like now its going to be a different look, the ramp was built of goods and taxi access via platform 8 /9 not as a pedestrian access, remember you could park you car on platform 8 at one time, LUL^▸ (London Underground Ltd) are building a new northern concourse as part of this area Crossrail are building a new taxi pick up drop off area the on on platform 1 closes.

[eightf48544]

Oh it's not far to come out through the bridge barriers & turn immediately left and walk 25 yeards to the northern LUL^▸ (London Underground Ltd) concourse

But it still adds 25 yards to what is already a fairly long walk from the main concourse to 15/16, especialy if by then LUL try the T cup again.

Will it be fully disabled access?

[ChrisB]

AS you turn right at the top of the ramp, before the barriers out towards the canal, it can't add more than 25 yards, it really can't.

And it separates those going to FGW^▸ (First Great Western) platforms, so will reduce numbers on the current bridge.

[plymothian]

And yet a subway to the Bakerloo line or Crossrail station would be even more logical.

[paul7575]

....especialy if by then LUL^▸ (London Underground Ltd) try the T cup again.

Er.. it's only a three week engineering work closure then back to the 'T cup', which is already permanent - have you misread something?

Will it be fully disabled access?

P15/16 definitely will be - as shown in the planning drawings I quoted earlier.  Not sure about the NR^» (Network Rail - home page) platforms from the footbridge, but aren't they level access from the concourse end?

Paul

[IanC]

Can someone tell me why the T-Cup refers to an London Undergound line?

[Electric train]

Can someone tell me why the T-Cup refers to an London Undergound line?

The Circle Line was changed in December from trains going around in a loop to the Circle Line now starting at Hammersmith  going via Kings Cross. Victoria and terminating at Edgewear Rd also the reverse of this, if you look at the LUL^▸ (London Underground Ltd) map the yellow line is still a circle but has line off to the west the topography of the map make the Paddington to Hammersmith section look like a handle, a number of websites and news papers have coined the phrase tea cup

[A V Lowe]

In 2004-2005 the extended journey times delivered by the transfer arrangements of the Thameslink blockade lead to en explosion in the use of cycles at St Pancras (a 1000% increase in bikes parked overnight and a substantial increase in the number taken on the trains).  A similar effect accompanied the blockade at Waterloo (W & City Tube) in 2006-07, and now 15% of the cycle traffic on Blackfriars Bridge is in effect rail travellers on a parallel route to the tube service. 

On 24th July and until 15th August the service will be withdrawn from the Hammersmith and City line completely, and H&C services will terminate at Edgware Road, whilst the Circle Line will be restoreed to its 'proper' operation.  This will extend the journey for some passengers heading back from Paddington towards Shepherds Bush and Hammersmith and make a messier onward connection for many heading East, with a knock on effect of even greater demand potentially shutting down the access to the tube lines via The Lawn with a greater frequency.  Will this drive a similar effect to the other longer blockades, or just 4 weeks of less reliable onward connections as bus and taxi services take some of this impact.

As an aside, the lift indicated on the Stations Made Easy listing for Paddington (but not on the last TfL^» (Transport for London - about) Access map) only serves the clockwise Circle Line, and this is made far more useful when the Circle Line operates as a true circuit, as step free access is available from clockwise platforms to a greater extent than counter clockwise, for those unable to manage stairs, with cross platform and same platform interchange providing further connections, and greatly reduced journey times - especially for the Paddington to Stratford journey tested for the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) You & Yours programme.

It will be interesting to observe how the travelling public reorganises itself to deal with this disruption compared to how the railway management expects (and has planned to deal with the situation).  Perhaps we have the opportunity to take a snapshot in the coming 2 weeks before the blockade and then record observations of the changes that regular travellers see over this period.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

they should strip out the buffet cars in store and use them as storage within the fleet

[Electric train]

The details of the actual work being undertaken during the Paddington H&C blockade can be seen here http://www.crossrail.co.uk/ny/pdf/CRL1-PDP-Z-GIS-B071-00001_C4030_demolition_taxi_rank_050710.pdf

[IndustryInsider]

Thanks for the link 'Electric Train' - it also explains why the service is totally suspended from Hammersmith, rather than a shuttle running Hammersmith to Royal Oak (which I mistakenly called Park Royal in my original post!)

[paul7575]

Thanks for the link 'Electric Train' - it also explains why the service is totally suspended from Hammersmith, rather than a shuttle running Hammersmith to Royal Oak (which I mistakenly called Park Royal in my original post!)

But 'Electric Train' and I had already explained this in our replies to your second post of this thread, quite a few days ago now...

Paul

[IndustryInsider]

Yes, Paul.  I meant to say explained officially!  Please accept my apologies.

[A V Lowe]

A distinct lack of publicity on the main station for the impending hiatus - seesm to be the "Fog in The Channel" syndrome.  The period is albeit a short one, and I happened to be talking to a coach driver at the coach park near Notting Hill who reckoned that by knowing the right route he could walk there from his digs on Edgware Road in 20 minutes - so a swift walk to Lancaster Gate (for the Central Line) seems an option.