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« Reply #300 on: July 13, 2011, 17:10:29 »

Hammond is attending a Press Briefing at Padd tomorrow. I wonder why?....

There's always the possibility it will be some sort of Crossrail do, I think they've just announced who is building the Crossrail station...

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« Reply #301 on: July 13, 2011, 17:11:08 »

Indeed, there's the electrification project too....
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« Reply #302 on: July 14, 2011, 16:30:29 »

Subsequent discussion about the launch of the Great Western Improvement Programme can be found here.
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« Reply #303 on: July 14, 2011, 16:31:23 »

But if anyone hears about the Adelantes, please post in this thread!
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« Reply #304 on: July 27, 2011, 19:43:11 »

What's the latest on this? Saw a First Hull Trains 180 sitting at Old Oak the other day. Are they coming back to FGW (First Great Western)? Please say they're going to rid the Cotswold line/Oxford fasts of Turbos!
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« Reply #305 on: July 27, 2011, 19:47:47 »

What's the latest on this? Saw a First Hull Trains 180 sitting at Old Oak the other day.

HT (Hull Trains)'s units have been maintained at OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) for over a year now, that alone doesn't indicate anything significant.

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Probably, yes.
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« Reply #306 on: July 27, 2011, 19:51:47 »

Sorry - didn't realise. Bit of a pain getting them to Kings Cross surely? I suppose it's like Eurostar at the North Pole..
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« Reply #307 on: July 27, 2011, 21:04:21 »

Sorry - didn't realise. Bit of a pain getting them to Kings Cross surely? I suppose it's like Eurostar at the North Pole..

Guess so.  Probably they reverse at Acton Main Line then go via Willesden Jn, Crouch Hill, Hornsey, or via the Camden/North London Incline (that may be out of use - not sure though), but there are other routes available off the NLL used by ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) moves, such as at Canonbury...

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« Reply #308 on: July 28, 2011, 00:49:57 »

Sorry - didn't realise. Bit of a pain getting them to Kings Cross surely? I suppose it's like Eurostar at the North Pole..
Guess so.  Probably they reverse at Acton Main Line then go via Willesden Jn, Crouch Hill, Hornsey, or via the Camden/North London Incline (that may be out of use - not sure though), but there are other routes available off the NLL used by ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) moves, such as at Canonbury...
...or even that nifty little freight link by Gospel Oak to allow Action Main Line to Crouch Hill via DHL+MML» (Midland Main Line. - about).  (Really?!)
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« Reply #309 on: July 28, 2011, 11:06:30 »

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Probably, yes.

HMmm - Mark Hopwood was hopeful of the odd Cotswold service getting a 180 if FGW did get them, but there's no promiose of seeing them there wholesale. My guess is that the shoulder-peak might see one where a turbo is used now.

But the middle of the day services could be served capacity-wise by a bubble car 120.
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« Reply #310 on: July 28, 2011, 11:13:56 »

But the middle of the day services could be served capacity-wise by a bubble car 120.

'Bubble Cars' are Class 121's.  The Class 120 was a 3-car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) which I always thought looked a little menacing! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:British_Rail_Class_120.jpg
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« Reply #311 on: July 28, 2011, 11:14:44 »

yup, thanks!
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« Reply #312 on: July 28, 2011, 15:27:00 »

Class 120 Swindon-built cross-country DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) were one of the best DMUs built. Pity none survived into preservation.
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« Reply #313 on: July 28, 2011, 18:14:33 »

Once reliability and service speed/ frequency gets better, there's no reason why a 180 can't be filled (not crammed, but "reasonably well used) all day.
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« Reply #314 on: August 02, 2011, 17:45:23 »

The latest Modern Railways, a 'Great Western special', has an interview with Mark Hopwood. It states that FGW (First Great Western) is seeking the five 180s for use on the Cotswold Line (and doesn't mention anywhere else), so that the Turbos freed up as a result can be reallocated to suburban services.

I know ChrisB will be along in a flash with his opinion of MR (Midland Railway) Wink so I'll just say that, in my view (and speaking as a magazine editor), it's a generally terrific magazine.
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