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« Reply #375 on: December 14, 2011, 13:13:02 » |
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Yes, it was due to arrive at OOC▸ this week and will go straight into its 'Refresh'. With regard to questions about the seating configuration post-refresh, does anyone know for definite if more seats are going to be installed? My own hunch would be that the refresh will include an external lick of paint, and a minimal amount of work on the interiors (i.e. new seat covers, heavy clean and general spruce up), rather than a full refit of seat alignments and so on, but I emphasise that's only a hunch!
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« Reply #376 on: December 14, 2011, 15:19:34 » |
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I have absolutely no knowledge of what's planned at all, but I'd have thought II's suggestion is probably the most likely option - gets the trains into service sooner than a full internal refit, and would FGW▸ really want to spend all that money rearranging the interior of these trains with just over a year left to run on the franchise?
The Adelentes are very pleasant trains internally, so as long as there's a deep clean and light refresh to deal with the revolting state Northern's "lowest common denominator" approach to cleaning has allegedly allowed them to get into, I'd have thought the punters would be happy.
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« Reply #377 on: December 14, 2011, 18:40:13 » |
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I like the legroom on the 180s, so I hope they don't try to ram more seats in.
Perhaps move First Class to an end coach. Not sure which bright spark thought having it in the middle was a good idea?
Does the "Audio" coach still work? Or has it been axed? (like VT▸ )
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« Reply #378 on: December 14, 2011, 18:46:44 » |
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Perhaps move First Class to an end coach. Not sure which bright spark thought having it in the middle was a good idea?
Just a guess, but possibly to do with limited capacity in the end vehicles because of the driver's/guard's accommodation...? Does the "Audio" coach still work? Or has it been axed? (like VT▸ )
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« Reply #379 on: December 14, 2011, 19:07:20 » |
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Just read on uk railforums, that it was two class 180's that were supposed to have left Newton Heath.
180103 & 180106.
Anyone got any confirmation that they have arrived at old oak common?
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« Reply #380 on: December 14, 2011, 19:14:12 » |
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Last reported 19 late at Harrow & Wealdstone, but that was just before 4pm. No further reports either means they've snuck into Old Oak Common unannounced on TRUST▸ , or they've conked out and are causing chaos on the WCML▸ .  |
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« Reply #381 on: December 14, 2011, 19:16:21 » |
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At the CLPG» Christmas dinner 10 days ago, Mark Hopwood announced that 5 Adelantes would be coming to FGW▸ shortly but would not enter service until Spring 2012 with a phased introduction for all to be service the time of the Olympics. 4 of the 5 will be virtually dedicated to the Cotswold Line weekday services so that all CL services on weekdays will be HST▸ or Adelante apart from the early morning Up stopper that will remain as a Turbo and, the new services that run only as far as Moreton. Substantial refurbishment will be necessary with 3 of the 5 being in a particularly poor condition. Refurbishment would be to a similar standard as the Hull Trains Adelantes.
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« Reply #382 on: December 14, 2011, 19:19:29 » |
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Substantial refurbishment will be necessary with 3 of the 5 being in a particularly poor condition.
Yeah, thanks Northern!  And to think we sent you back 7x 142s in tip top condition.... Well done Exteter TMD▸ ! |
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« Reply #383 on: December 14, 2011, 19:39:14 » |
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Substantial refurbishment will be necessary with 3 of the 5 being in a particularly poor condition.
Yeah, thanks Northern! And to think we sent you back 7x 142s in tip top condition.... Well done Exteter TMD▸ ! Anythink Northern rail touch seems to turn to sh*t! |
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« Reply #384 on: December 14, 2011, 19:42:02 » |
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Last reported 19 late at Harrow & Wealdstone, but that was just before 4pm. No further reports either means they've snuck into Old Oak Common unannounced on TRUST▸ , or they've conked out and are causing chaos on the WCML▸ . They snuck in unnanounced - arriving Old Oak at 16:35. Get to work on 'em boys! |
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« Reply #385 on: December 14, 2011, 20:05:00 » |
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Get to work on 'em boys!
Hear, hear. Go at it OOC▸ ! The folks on the Cotswold Line are patiently awaiting your sterling work, OOC. |
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« Reply #386 on: December 14, 2011, 20:23:01 » |
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According to Today's Railways UK▸ Jan edition all the 180s are going in for a Rosco funded overhaul, to include a 'full rewire'. You don't hear of that on relatively new units too often... I wonder if they really just mean some important part of the wiring, such as the fire alarm system...  Paul |
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« Reply #387 on: December 14, 2011, 20:57:32 » |
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I wonder if they really just mean some important part of the wiring, such as the fire alarm system... To be fair, I think only one of the 180s had gone a bit 'toasty' since FGW▸ got rid first time round. I await, with interest, their MPC▸ figures once they are back in service with FGW.... |
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« Reply #388 on: December 14, 2011, 21:10:40 » |
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I await, with interest, their MPC▸ figures once they are back in service with FGW▸ ....
'MPC' is 'Miles Per Casualty' - I've added the definition to our Acronyms/Abbreviations page.  |
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« Reply #389 on: December 14, 2011, 23:46:15 » |
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... and I've also updated the heading of this topic, to more accurately reflect the current situation! |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
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