Official arrival time of the 1511 HFD to PAD today ... can an eye be kept out ..

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[Mookiemoo]

Quite.

That's why I don't think there's be any compensation due even if you did try that little stunt. If you genuinely did want to go to Reading West then you'd have bought a ticket to go there. And (at least if it was me) I'd get to Reading and buy an extra ticket for that short hop, not try and excess the original ticket then claim a refund of exceedingly dubious legitimacy.

I've not yet seen a ticket to Reading that doesn't say Reading Stations though...

So a Reading would actually get you to Readin West - interesting

[Ollie]

So a Reading would actually get you to Readin West - interesting

As long as it says Reading Stations and not just Reading.

[devon_metro]

Would be a ^0.00 excess anyway. Aside from the obvious scam, John you raise an interesting point.

You say I an contracted to the journey I purchase first, say I then excess a ticket on board legitimately, then after this am delayed, am I covered for delay?

[Mookiemoo]

Would be a ^0.00 excess anyway. Aside from the obvious scam, John you raise an interesting point.

You say I an contracted to the journey I purchase first, say I then excess a ticket on board legitimately, then after this am delayed, am I covered for delay?

Having dabbled a bit in contract law (my original degree was accounting and business law) I would say as long as the time stamp on the ticket was BEFORE the length of the delay became apparent, then you should be.....since excessing on board is allowed

Anyway, my postulation is a moot point since I'll have my RC back tomorrow and I'd never ever claim back a first fair issued with a RC on board a train.  I wouldnt want to dob in a nice train manager

[inspector_blakey]

Having dabbled a bit in contract law...I would say as long as the time stamp on the ticket was BEFORE the length of the delay became apparent, then you should be.....

I suspect that's absolutely correct. Which still means that, when all's said and done, you can't try and purchase some kind of shady excess fare in the interests of stringing things out to score a full refund if you're delayed! I suspect this works something like insurance, where is has to be purchased before something goes t*ts up: to take a contemporary example, if I purchased travel insurance before British Airways strike dates were announced then I'd be covered for delays/cancellation due to that strike. If I purchased it afterwards, the not unreasonably I'd be out in the cold.

[super tm]

If you wanted your money back badly enough you could have purchased an excess to Reading West, and i suspect you would have been +1 hour late. However I don't condone performing such an action

Such an excess does not exist.  Al ticket to Reading include Reading West

[Mookiemoo]

If you wanted your money back badly enough you could have purchased an excess to Reading West, and i suspect you would have been +1 hour late. However I don't condone performing such an action

Such an excess does not exist.  Al ticket to Reading include Reading West

So in THEORY I could just have claimed I was going to Reading West

[super tm]

If you wanted your money back badly enough you could have purchased an excess to Reading West, and i suspect you would have been +1 hour late. However I don't condone performing such an action

Such an excess does not exist.  Al ticket to Reading include Reading West

So in THEORY I could just have claimed I was going to Reading West

in theory yes. But that would be fr*ud

[inspector_blakey]

Wasn't he the founder of psychoanalysis...?

[inspector_blakey]

Interesting comparison between FGW^▸ (First Great Western) and XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) compensation.
While FGW will provide alternative transportation if your next connection is not for over an hour, they only compensate you for delays over sixty minutes (and only then if the railway is to blame - I'm willing to be corrected on that). XC will only provide alternative transportation if another connection is more than two hours away, but they will start compensation from 30 mins delay, whatever the cause.

I think that's because the XC franchise, being about 18 months newer than FGW's, was let after the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about) had started specifying the "delay-repay" scheme for all new franchises, whereby partial compensation kicks in at 30 minutes with a full refund at 60 minutes as before.

You're absolutely right about FGW - currently only compensation for delays "within the control of the rail industry", so things like suicides, trespass, severe weather etc are not compensated. However the delay-repay arrangement as applied to XC and later franchises doesn't discriminate between causes of delay, so XC would have to refund you for a delay due to, say, flooding whereas FGW would not.