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Author Topic: South Wales local services - Pembroke, Fishguard, Swanline, etc.  (Read 278386 times)
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« Reply #630 on: May 15, 2013, 16:38:31 »

I really hope its not pacers on a regular basis. They are awful and should be just used on short journeys in Cardiff.  Even the Saturday swanline shouldnt be a pacer but a 150 IMO (in my opinion).

Hopefully 2 150s and a double 153, so whatever goes onto the HOW the next morning will be 2 car and then doing the 1710 Swanline.
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« Reply #631 on: May 15, 2013, 20:36:48 »

You get extra capacity on Pembroke Docks then you moan about it being Pacers.   You can't have it both ways.    A Pacer would no doubt accomodate passengers on that route but a 150 would be more suited on the Valleys with the heavy loadings as they have more seats than a Pacer.
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« Reply #632 on: May 15, 2013, 21:48:08 »

I very rarely use Pembroke Dock services to be honest just curious to know what stock is going to be used. I just dont think pacers are ideal for this journey.
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« Reply #633 on: May 15, 2013, 22:14:03 »

Pacers are no use anywhere.   I can assure you, however, that the 17 10 Swansea (ex Llanelli from May) will be 2 coaches.
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« Reply #634 on: May 15, 2013, 23:30:19 »

Pacers are no use anywhere.   I can assure you, however, that the 17 10 Swansea (ex Llanelli from May) will be 2 coaches.

There will be a lot of very happy commuters traveling to Llansamlet, Skewen and Neath who will be glad to here that. The looks on peoples faces when they see the 1710 departure from Swansea is a single class 153
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« Reply #635 on: May 16, 2013, 00:15:19 »

Hey - even single Class 153s have feelings, too!  Wink
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« Reply #636 on: May 16, 2013, 09:43:37 »

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« Reply #637 on: May 16, 2013, 18:04:38 »

I would rather a 153 to a pacer any day of the week  Wink

The 1710 has been booked for a 150 for sometime now anyway  Smiley
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« Reply #638 on: May 16, 2013, 19:37:32 »

Even if you had to stand and there would have been room in a Pacer.
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« Reply #639 on: May 17, 2013, 16:33:42 »

absolutely, i would rather stand than be sat uncomfortably.

Any news on what will form the Pembroke Dock Diagrams when they increase to 2 car?
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« Reply #640 on: May 17, 2013, 17:16:04 »

Now in the public domain so was unable to say anything earlier.  From May 19th.
Pembroke Docks - 2 x Pacers straight swap for Radyr/Coryton and 1 x 150 which should fall in place for HOW following morning.     153 to Cardiff Bay.
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« Reply #641 on: May 17, 2013, 18:26:12 »

Thanks. So the 153s should be 2 on Coryton, 1 Cardiff Bay, 1 Crewe Local and 2 HOW. That leaves 2 spare - 1 for maintenance? and possibly 1 for use on Ebbw Vale services?  its seems half of the 153 fleet will now be based in the Cardiff area!

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« Reply #642 on: May 17, 2013, 18:47:33 »

Assume Ebbw Vale strengthener
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« Reply #643 on: May 25, 2013, 08:40:09 »

Thanks. So the 153s should be 2 on Coryton, 1 Cardiff Bay, 1 Crewe Local and 2 HOW. That leaves 2 spare - 1 for maintenance? and possibly 1 for use on Ebbw Vale services?  its seems half of the 153 fleet will now be based in the Cardiff area!
Two on HOWL? How many diagrams does HOWL see then, given a 150 off Pembroke Dock was mentioned above as going onto HOWL the next morning?

Yesterday, Friday 24th May, the unit arriving at Shrewsbury from HOWL (while I was waiting for 17:27 to Aberystwyth) was a 150. The 15:30 Manchester - Pembroke Dock was formed of 150 + 158, instead of the normal overcrowded 175/0. The guard however announced one extra coach rather than two, was this because a class 150 doesn't have full-length coaches or is the 15:30 now booked for a 175/1?

The 150 was on the front, and announced as terminating at Cardiff with the 158 continuing west. I thought that was odd, since the 150 would have to get out of the way before the 158 could proceed. The guard also announced that, due to having a different type of train from normal, there are no reservations. However, 158s have slots for reseveration tickets and come to think of it I think I've even seen reservations on the Fishguard boat train's woefully inappropriate class 150.
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« Reply #644 on: May 25, 2013, 10:11:32 »

Two on HOWL? How many diagrams does HOWL see then, given a 150 off Pembroke Dock was mentioned above as going onto HOWL the next morning?

Two plus one closely related diagram on Swanline with interworking between the three.


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The guard however announced one extra coach rather than two, was this because a class 150 doesn't have full-length coaches or is the 15:30 now booked for a 175/1?

IS that the 1904 from CDF» (Cardiff - next trains)? Quite possible the guard didn't know off the top of his head if it was normally 2 or 3 so he just played safe and said oen extra carriage?
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