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Author Topic: South Wales local services - Pembroke, Fishguard, Swanline, etc.  (Read 278343 times)
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« Reply #555 on: September 21, 2012, 19:23:00 »

1655 was again a 2 car 175 and 1900 was a 3 car 175 (isnt that booked as a 2 car?)

1710 was a 150.
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« Reply #556 on: September 24, 2012, 17:12:53 »

Monday

1510 Swansea-Chester was a 3 car 175, as was the 1655 Swansea-Manchester (which last week seemed to be a 2 car)

1555 Swansea-Manchester I think was a 150, also a 150 on the 1710 Swanline and the 1705 Swansea-Fishguard. 

Ive noticed the 1710 Swanline is often a 150 now, not sure if its booked as such or if its just a coincidence a 150 is covering a 153 diagram. Does that still start at the 0436 HOW service or does it get swapped somewhere?


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« Reply #557 on: September 24, 2012, 20:51:35 »

17 10 Swansea to Cardiff as 150 more by luck than judgement.  Does 04 36 ex Swansea to Shrewsbury off night Fishguard.
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« Reply #558 on: September 24, 2012, 22:50:18 »

Was passing through Shrewsbury again yesterday (Sunday 23rd September 2012) where a 158 (with the new 'Welsh Government' logo) was sat at what looks like a disused platform on the platform 7 side of the station. A spare unit on standby?

At 17:54:04 (that's what it says on the LED infomation signs, I have a photo) 150282 arrived (terminating, at platform 5) from Wolverhampton. 'That's odd' I thought, ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) don't run Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury services do they? (and the pair of 158s I had arrived on from Aberystwyth said it was bound for Birmingham so as far as I could guess it wasn't that Wolves-Birmingham was shut). At the same time, 153362 pulled in to platform 4 with my service to Manchester and a class 150 (150227 as I found out on reaching MAN) in tow.

Was all that booked to happen or is it just how the cards landed after being thrown in the air?
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« Reply #559 on: September 24, 2012, 22:57:52 »

'That's odd' I thought, ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) don't run Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury services do they?

It's part of the standard pattern service. From both Chester and Aberystwyth/Pwllheli to Birmingham International.



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« Reply #560 on: September 25, 2012, 12:09:27 »

The train arriving Shrewsbury at that time and worked by 150282 would be the Shrewsbury to Wolverhampton "all stations shuttle".  It is booked for a 153 but as 150s frequently cover for 153s, especially on HOW whence it would have come on Saturday, that would be the explanation.   LM (London Midland - recent franchise) work no services on the route on Sundays but cover the stoppers on weekdays.
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« Reply #561 on: September 25, 2012, 20:15:24 »

'That's odd' I thought, ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) don't run Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury services do they?

It's part of the standard pattern service. From both Chester and Aberystwyth/Pwllheli to Birmingham International.
I am aware that ATW run services over the line, but didn't think they had any that were scheduled to terminate at Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton (ie. I thought all ATW's services over the line ran to/from Birmingham).

The train arriving Shrewsbury at that time and worked by 150282 would be the Shrewsbury to Wolverhampton "all stations shuttle".  It is booked for a 153 but as 150s frequently cover for 153s, especially on HOW whence it would have come on Saturday, that would be the explanation.   LM (London Midland - recent franchise) work no services on the route on Sundays but cover the stoppers on weekdays.
So it was the stopper, that I thought was always LM operated, that 150282 was running then. Thanks for clearing that up.
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« Reply #562 on: September 25, 2012, 20:41:25 »

This service was introduced approx year ago to call at the local stations to speed up the Birmingham Internationals and ease overcrowding on them.
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« Reply #563 on: October 01, 2012, 23:32:51 »

1710 Swanline (which starts as the 0436 Heart of Wales up service/0900 down) still appears to be a 150. The 0811 Cardiff-Swansea-Shrewsbury was also a 150 today.  So 2/3 of trains on HOW today were 150s. Could be a sign of things to come with the free pass now starting. I guess the 0916 off Swansea and the 0900 off Shrewsbury are the 2 which are the most useful to be 2 cars.

Also a 158 on a Carmarthen-Manchester diagram today - the first one of the day that goes via Swansea around 0705, then formed the 11.30 journey back then ends up on the 1755 Swansea back up again.
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« Reply #564 on: October 02, 2012, 21:24:34 »

Also a 158 on a Carmarthen-Manchester diagram today - the first one of the day that goes via Swansea around 0705, then formed the 11.30 journey back then ends up on the 1755 Swansea back up again.

That'll be because it was substituted at Cardiff yesterday. The 7.05 was delayed by a fault, arrived late at Swansea and held behind the 7.28.  I just missed the 7.28 and thought the 'extra' train would make my connection, but ended up losing time and running more or less in the path of the 7.45 and terminating at Cardiff, the 7.45 running slightly late behind it.
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« Reply #565 on: October 08, 2012, 22:06:03 »

Apparently the line to S.W.Wales via Swansea is closed for engineering works on Saturday 13th October and trains will be diverted via the Swansea District Line. Is this connected with the re-doubling work?

Also, does anyone know if any class 158s are diagramed for these diverted services over the Swansea District Line? I'd like to get some film/photographs of one going over a viaduct (I think the one I'm thinking of is close to Llangennech and visible from the M4, running paralell to it), (an Intercity 125 would be good too if First Great Western's services are being diverted).
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« Reply #566 on: October 09, 2012, 19:07:58 »

I think the FGW (First Great Western) services are running through to Swansea and the Pembroke Dock - Swansea services are terminating/starting from Llanelli.

The 06:30 Manchester - Milford Haven and 13:10 Milford Haven - Manchester service should be a class 158 on saturday Also the 12:05 service from Cardiff to Milford Haven on sundays is nearly always a class 158 and runs via the Swansea District Line.
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« Reply #567 on: October 10, 2012, 21:35:18 »

I might look into train times for Saturday as ive never been on the district line.

I noticed the 1655 Swansea-Manchester appeared to be a 158 today. Rare for that one not to be a 175.
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« Reply #568 on: October 10, 2012, 21:53:02 »

I might look into train times for Saturday as ive never been on the district line.

I noticed the 1655 Swansea-Manchester appeared to be a 158 today. Rare for that one not to be a 175.

There are some good views on the district line I know I am intending on getting some photos at different points along the route.
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« Reply #569 on: October 10, 2012, 22:09:33 »

I have never been on the district but live really close to the line, its mainly because of the poor service, either very early morning or late night, or the Fishguard which only stops at Cardiff and then next stop Llanelli.
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