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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2010, 21:23:05 »

Worked for me. It highlights some curious facts. eg Rhymney to Ebbw Vale Parkway is over 50 miles, yet 7.2 miles and 15 minutes by road.

I'm sure there are some more extreme examples, but thought I would throw that open to see what suggestions people have.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2010, 22:09:21 »

how about Axminster to Gunnislake via barnstaple for around 5p per mile :-)
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2010, 22:46:11 »

I'm surprised people don't recognise who made it..Tom..swlines.

By the way works for me in Firefox.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2010, 22:51:21 »

works for me too i use firefox
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2010, 22:57:38 »

I'm surprised people don't recognise who made it..Tom..swlines.

By the way works for me in Firefox.

I did wonder,(but thought there's more than one person called Tom).
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2010, 23:30:12 »

I'm surprised people don't recognise who made it..Tom..swlines.

By the way works for me in Firefox.

I did wonder,(but thought there's more than one person called Tom).
True but does show Tom Cairns, and I figured be more than me on here who knew his surname too. I didn't mean it to come across as a "oh my god how can you not recognise who it is!!" Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2010, 23:47:28 »

Hmm.  Roll Eyes

Just for the record, the website offered above by devon_metro is indeed run by Tom Cairns, who used to be member 'swlines' on this forum.

Further details are available at http://thomas-cairns.co.uk/

Chris.  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2010, 02:50:23 »


Anyone get it to work? I cannae get the 'Submit' button to do anything.  Sad
Worked fine for me in Firefox (although on Linux).  Do you have something that may be blocking the JavaScript?

Checked my settings on IE and JavaScript is enabled. Still cannae get it to work on IE. Firefox is fine though......
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 20:01:49 »

I'm not a user of Internet Explorer, however it worked for me in IE8.

Tom says that IE6/7 isn't supported.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2010, 20:28:41 »

The only problem I've had is that the 'map' link doesn't work... it takes me to Google Maps, but nothing comes up on there...
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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2010, 09:04:57 »

I'm not a user of Internet Explorer, however it worked for me in IE8.

Tom says that IE6/7 isn't supported.

I had the same problem on IE6, but it works fine on the Android browser on my phone. Now if someone out there was clever enough to create a mashup using Tom's site and the National Rail fare calculator, we'd be able to set about finding the best value journey in the UK (United Kingdom)! Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2010, 09:33:38 »

Just to summarise, I think the best we have so far is (mileage calculated using railmiles.org for a return journey using permitted route):

With changes:
Bristol TM(resolve) - Worcester SH via Newport and Hereford: 200.15 miles @ £10.60 ⇔ 5.30 ppm / 18.88 miles per pound

Without changes:
Plymouth - Penzance: 158.95 miles @ £9.50 ⇔ 5.98ppm / 16.7 miles per pound

N.B. I've edited this post to correct the mistake bignosemac spotted (below).
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2010, 11:15:50 »

... if someone out there was clever enough to create a mashup using Tom's site and the National Rail fare calculator ...

"Clever" is one thing - there are people who could do it. Some of the problems start coming when the parties supplying the basic data say they're doing so for regular users only, and not for people who are looking to store the data / use it through automata - they claim copyright, etc, and can get very unhappy.   I recall there have been a few problems with the odd split-ticket web site.   Legal to split, but apparently not legal to provide a service that makes routine use of the data behind it.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2010, 13:29:34 »

Just to summarise, I think the best we have so far is (mileage calculated using railmiles.org for a return journey using permitted route):

With changes:
Bristol TM(resolve) - Worcester SH via Newport and Hereford: 200.15 miles @ ^9.50 ⇔ 5.30 ppm / 18.88 miles per pound

Where'd you get ^9.50 from? The BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)-WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) CDR (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day')) is ^10.60. Calculations are right though, based on ^10.60.

And the mileage can be upped. I've discovered that the ^10.60 CDR is valid from Keynsham and permitted route allows Keynsham-Bristol TM-Bristol PW (Permanent Way)-Newport-Hereford-Worcester Shrub Hill. 211.5 miles return. I make that 19.95 miles per ^ / 5.01 pence per mile.

Now, if the tunnel was closed you could (if you really wanted to!) go Keynsham-Bristol TM-Gloucester-Newport (via Chepstow)-Hereford-Worcester Shrub Hill. 324.25 miles return. 30.59 miles per ^ / 3.27 pence per mile.
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2010, 13:49:46 »

Where'd you get £9.50 from? The BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)-WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) CDR (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day')) is £10.60. Calculations are right though, based on £10.60.

Sorry, got my fares mixed up there, £9.50 was for Plymouth to Penzance. Embarrassed

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