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« on: May 08, 2010, 10:43:39 »

With the general election over and a bit of a "where now?" element in the air as I write, it seems a good time to come up with some ideas and suggestions as to what we might like to see - not only on FGW (First Great Western) but on rail as a whole, and perhaps on integrated transport, transport as a whole, and even changes that will effect the need for us to be transported so far ....

I was struck by a post a few minutes ago, suggesting a poster's personal view that franchise agreements should have the times that off peak fares are available written additionally into them.  Again, on a purely personal side, I thing I disagree with the suggestion in isolation as it would make for more complexity, admin expense, possible loopholes.   But what can you come up with - no holds barred, laws can be rewritten ...
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2010, 11:15:04 »

Scrap HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) using the money to invest in new rolling stock to benefit the whole rail network which would lead to further cascades of existing rolling stock.

Much longer and less perscriptive franchises to encourage companies to invest in their franchise but with strict minimum service levels to safeguard services.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 12:41:29 »

A short term fix would be to order some 172s on top of the London Midland and London Overground order. Perhaps if our franchise system wasn't so controlled it would be more viable for private companies to make the investment!
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 14:51:04 »

I would suggest they keep Lord Adonis as the Secretary of State for Transport and continue with the current funding of the railways.

But alas I fear that a hung Parliament will mean no funding decisions will be made one way or the other just placed on hold its going to be a bit of a twilight zone, things like Crossrail trains to run as part of the December 2017 will slip to 2020 or 2021 or ............... GWML (Great Western Main Line) electrification will be placed on a back burner not canceled just lack of political drive
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 00:12:16 »

Scrap HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) using the money to invest in new rolling stock to benefit the whole rail network which would lead to further cascades of existing rolling stock.

Much longer and less perscriptive franchises to encourage companies to invest in their franchise but with strict minimum service levels to safeguard services.

An alternative idea would be to keep HS2 but to have it under a completely seperate entity from the current network to prevent the budget for rail being spent on HS2 leaving the rest of us to suffer. Having a rail budget that is similair if not increased as to what it is now and having HS2 under a classification of its own will solve the problem of high speed rail favoured against classic lines. (In theory)
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 14:11:32 »

From the point of view of Bristol commuters (and others travelling further afield), I think our results locally are very positive.

In Weston-Super-Mare, John Penrose has a track record of supporting rail services; in Somerset North, Liam Fox is a very vocal supporter of the Portishead reopening; and in Bristol North West, Charlotte Leslie is very active in supporting FOSBR (Friends of Suburban Bristol Railways).
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 15:36:47 »

It's all well and good having those Conservative MPs (Member of Parliament) batting for their constituencies, but their efforts are likely to be severely hamstrung by central government policy. There will be lots of platitudes, but precious little action. There just isn't going to be the money - we are in for a period of 'make-do-and-mend', with budgets being cut left, right and centre. I therefore see little room for improvement in local services. In fact I'd go so far as to say that Bristol City Council will look to withdraw/reduce it's subsidy of the Severn Beach Line, instead asking the operator to make it pay.

As for Charlotte Leslie, she wouldn't have stood a chance if it wasn't for boundary changes. With the Bristol North-West constituency losing Filton and Patchway and gaining the leafy 'burbs of Stoke Bishop, Henleaze (with it's Waitrose!) and Westbury-on-Trym, the seat became a straight fight between the Nasty Party and the Sandalistas. The previous Labour MP, Dr Doug Naysmith*, saw the writing was on the wall and decided to retire from parliament - and not because of any expenses scandal!

Oh, and Charlotte Leslie tried to buy my vote by bribing my dog with a wine gum.  Wink

*Dr Naysmith stood instead in the City Council election for Avonmouth ward, winning the seat by means of a lucky dip after the ballot was tied.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 17:02:32 »

Given the present fiscal situation I have no doubt we are in for a period of mainly 'treading water' as far as the railways are concerned.

However my hope is that the Conservatives & Liberal Democrats are able to come to an agreement which would allow some of the more sensible/useful/cost effective rail schemes to proceed as planned - I am thinking Crossrail, GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification, MML» (Midland Main Line. - about) Electrification & NW England infill electrification projects.

Implementation of longer rail franchises I regard as essential, as long as minimum service levels are very tightly specified. I would hope that in the medium term this would allow the TOC (Train Operating Company)'s, should they so wish, to directly purchase most of their own rolling stock thereby leading to the gradual elimination of the ROSCO» (Rolling Stock Owning Company - about)'s which just take money out of the rail industry in the form of an additional profit centre.

The new government should immediately stop the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) from trying to micromanage rail timetables and pass this responsibility to the TOC's who should be regarded as the experts.

Rapid implementation of variable trunk road speed limits, together with the abandonment of proposals for road pricing would be nice - I only ever travel infrequently on the roads as a passenger (and every day as a cyclist!) but it strikes me as daft that cars are still limited to 60/70 mph when traffic levels are low, and I take the view that Fuel Excise Duty/Tax already acts as a form of road pricing. Just introduce point-to-point tolls in the few places where congestion is really bad.

And finally...the rapid rollout of a national high speed broadband network (fibre to the premises, rather than fibre to the cabinet) with a view to reducing the volume of business travel.   

 
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 17:23:36 »

As for Charlotte Leslie, she wouldn't have stood a chance if it wasn't for boundary changes. With the Bristol North-West constituency losing Filton and Patchway ...

I'm not sure I buy that argument, bignosemac: the Filton and Bradley Stoke constituency, which 'gained' the electorate in the Filton and Patchway areas, also achieved an increased Conservative majority.

Oh, and Charlotte Leslie tried to buy my vote by bribing my dog with a wine gum.  Wink

I'm jealous: she didn't offer me a wine gum!  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 18:22:59 »

As for Charlotte Leslie, she wouldn't have stood a chance if it wasn't for boundary changes. With the Bristol North-West constituency losing Filton and Patchway ...

I'm not sure I buy that argument, bignosemac: the Filton and Bradley Stoke constituency, which 'gained' the electorate in the Filton and Patchway areas, also achieved an increased Conservative majority.

Well, we can never be sure, General Election voting statistics are not collated ward by ward. However the most recent council election results for the Patchway ward returned 3 Lib Dem councillors. Could've been handy for Paul Harrod, the Lib Dem parliamentary candidate for Bristol NW, if Patchway had remained in Bristol NW. As for the increased Conservative 'majority' in Filton and Bradley Stoke; that is only notional. The constituency is wholly new.

I'll stop now before I get bogged down in statistics - we all know the saying about statistics....... Wink

Back to what the future holds for the railway.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 20:49:23 »


 I think it is highly unlikely that their will be additional investment in Devon/Cornwall, bearing in mind the expense
 of just keeping the line open.
 I would like to suggest new rolling stock and some faster line speeds.
 Perhaps some private finance package could untap the business potential of Devon/Cornwall.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 21:31:44 »

No view on the points raised, Henry. Except to say what a great animated smiley/emoticon!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 17:40:57 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Gordon Brown 'stepping down as Labour leader'

Gordon Brown has said he is stepping down as Labour Party leader.
Mr Brown, prime minister since 2007, said he wanted a successor to be in place by the time of the party's conference in September.
Mr Brown announced his intention to quit in a statement in Downing St in which he also said his party was to start formal talks with the Lib Dems.
The Conservatives won the most seats and most votes in the election and have been in talks with the Lib Dems.
But Mr Brown's statement will be seen as a move to smooth the way to a deal between Labour and the Liberal Democrats to form a government.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2010, 14:51:45 »

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11. Environment
The parties agree to implement a full programme of measures to fulfil our joint ambitions for a low carbon and eco-friendly economy, including:
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- The establishment of a high-speed rail network.
- The cancellation of the third runway at Heathrow.
- The refusal of additional runways at Gatwick and Stansted.
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11. Environment
The parties agree to implement a full programme of measures to fulfil our joint ambitions for a low
carbon and eco-friendly economy, including:
- The establishment of a smart grid and the roll-out of smart meters.
- The full establishment of feed-in tariff systems in electricity ^ as well as the maintenance of
banded ROCs (Rail Operating Centre - a centralised location for railway signalling and train control operations for a specific route or region).
- Measures to promote a huge increase in energy from waste through anaerobic digestion.
- The creation of a green investment bank.
- The provision of home energy improvement paid for by the savings from lower energy bills.
- Retention of energy performance certificates while scrapping HIPs.
- Measures to encourage marine energy.
- The establishment of an emissions performance standard that will prevent coal-fired power
stations being built unless they are equipped with sufficient CCS to meet the emissions
performance standard.
- The establishment of a high-speed rail network.
- The cancellation of the third runway at Heathrow.
- The refusal of additional runways at Gatwick and Stansted.
- The replacement of the Air Passenger Duty with a per flight duty.

- The provision of a floor price for carbon, as well as efforts to persuade the EU» (European Union - about) to move
towards full auctioning of ETS (Electric Train Supply) permits.
- Measures to make the import or possession of illegal timber a criminal offence.
- Measures to promote green spaces and wildlife corridors in order to halt the loss of habitats
and restore biodiversity.
- Mandating a national recharging network for electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles.
- Continuation of the present Government^s proposals for public sector investment in CCS
technology for four coal-fired power stations; and a specific commitment to reduce central
government carbon emissions by 10 per cent within 12 months.
- We are agreed that we would seek to increase the target for energy from renewable sources,
subject to the advice of the Climate Change Committee.
Liberal Democrats have long opposed any new nuclear construction. Conservatives, by contrast, are
committed to allowing the replacement of existing nuclear power stations provided they are subject
to the normal planning process for major projects (under a new national planning statement) and
provided also that they receive no public subsidy.
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