Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 01:55 21 Apr 2025
 
- RAF jets intercept Russian aircraft near Nato airspace
* Gatwick worst airport in UK for flight delays
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railsay Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM
14/05/25 - West Wiltshire RUG

On this day
21st Apr (1958)
Battery Multiple Unit enters public service (link)

Train RunningCancelled
12:12 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
23:30 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
Short Run
05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central
05:47 Exeter St Davids to Cardiff Central
05:53 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
05:58 Westbury to Cardiff Central
06:01 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
06:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
06:28 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
06:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central
06:44 Exeter St Davids to Cardiff Central
06:57 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
06:59 Westbury to Cardiff Central
07:20 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
07:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
07:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central
08:00 Cardiff Central to Plymouth
08:19 Taunton to Cardiff Central
08:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
08:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
09:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
09:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
09:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
10:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
10:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
10:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
10:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
10:50 Penzance to Cardiff Central
10:52 Plymouth to Cardiff Central
11:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
11:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
11:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
12:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
12:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
12:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
13:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
13:11 Taunton to Cardiff Central
13:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
13:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
14:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
14:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
14:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
14:49 Plymouth to Cardiff Central
14:59 Cardiff Central to Taunton
15:15 Taunton to Cardiff Central
15:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
15:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
16:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
16:24 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
16:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
16:31 Barnstaple to Axminster
16:50 Penzance to Cardiff Central
17:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
17:10 Taunton to Cardiff Central
17:24 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
17:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
18:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
18:10 Taunton to Cardiff Central
18:24 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
18:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
19:00 Cardiff Central to Penzance
19:15 Taunton to Cardiff Central
19:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
19:28 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
20:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
20:24 Exmouth to Cardiff Central
20:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
20:59 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
21:30 Cardiff Central to Frome
22:00 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
22:30 Cardiff Central to Bristol Temple Meads
etc
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 21, 2025, 02:14:53 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[157] Fortuitous connections ... and an App which fails to offer the...
[93] RNLI station celebrates 10 years of saving lives - Portishead,...
[56] Salisbury Station, 2025 edition
[53] Eyesight rules for motorists unsafe, says coroner
[48] FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
[47] St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incide...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 6
  Print  
Author Topic: UK Flights Disrupted By Iceland!  (Read 28520 times)
Bob_Blakey
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 880


View Profile
« on: April 15, 2010, 06:32:33 »

Not because the airlines have run out of frozen pizza, but rather the imminent arrival of a large cloud of volcanic ash which originated from the recent eruption of Eyjafjallajoekull.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8621407.stm

Judging by the Exeter Airport departure board already this morning some train services are likely to be busier than expected.
Logged
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 19304



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 07:39:45 »

Pretty much every UK (United Kingdom) airport is facing severe disruption. All but one arrival at Bristol Airport is currently showing as cancelled.

Gonna be a mad day today for airline passengers. Can see long distance rail services being rammed to the gunnels.
Logged

"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
Bob_Blakey
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 880


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 08:38:39 »

Coincidence or a little bit of forward planning by XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?...the 0634 BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)-0837 PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) service this morning, which invariably passes south of Exeter on my way to work, was a double Voyager.
Logged
Brucey
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2259


View Profile WWW
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 10:43:56 »

Quote from: NATS
Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Thurs April 15, 09:30
From midday today until at least 6pm, there will be no flights permitted in UK (United Kingdom) controlled airspace other than emergency situations. This has been applied in accordance with international civil aviation policy. We continue to monitor the situation with the Met Office and work closely with airline customers and adjoining countries.
http://www.nats.co.uk/

I would hazard a guess that the railways will become quite busy today.
Logged
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 11:27:01 »

Looking on the bright side...

1) Trains and the roads will be busy I am sure but it is an opportunity for the railway to demonstrate what it can do to potential new customers. I have a colleague in Brussels at the moment who has just booked a Eurostar-FGW (First Great Western) journey to replace his flight.   

2) The folks who live under the Heathrow flightpath will sleep well tonight.

3) We might get some spectacular sunsets. 

Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 43857



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 12:03:44 »

... who has just booked a Eurostar-FGW (First Great Western) journey to replace his flight.    ....

Is volcanic ash less of a problem in the tunnel than the wrong sort of snow  Grin

Seriously - any issues at ground level with ground based vehicle engines?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19555



View Profile Email
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 13:00:24 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Quote
The eruption ejected the plume, which is made up of fine rock particles, up to 11km into the atmosphere.
"This ash cloud is now drifting with the high altitude winds," said Dr David Rothery, a volcano researcher from the UK (United Kingdom)'s Open University. "The main mass is over Scandinavia, but it is also over the north of Great Britain and is likely to spread south over the whole island by the end of [Thursday]."
The plume is so high that it will neither be visible nor pose a threat to the health of humans on the ground, although Dr Rothery added that we may have a "spectacularly red sunset" on Thursday evening.
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 13:15:53 »

Looking on the bright side...

1) Trains and the roads will be busy I am sure but it is an opportunity for the railway to demonstrate what it can do to potential new customers. I have a colleague in Brussels at the moment who has just booked a Eurostar-FGW (First Great Western) journey to replace his flight.   

2) The folks who live under the Heathrow flightpath will sleep well tonight.

3) We might get some spectacular sunsets. 


and 4) We may get stranded in Florida by BA» (British Airways - about) for the second year running.  Grin
Logged
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19555



View Profile Email
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 13:55:28 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Quote
Icelandic volcanic ash disruption prompts rush to rail

Travel firms have seen bookings surge as people seek different travel arrangements after planes were grounded in the UK (United Kingdom) because of volcanic ash.
Eurostar said some of Thursday's services between the UK and mainland Europe were almost full after "thousands" of extra reservations.
And Virgin Trains said that it was carrying an extra 2,000 passengers on its route between Glasgow and London.
Ferry companies also reported an increase in enquiries.
A spokesman for Brittany Ferries said people were hastily re-arranging travel plans.
"We expect Spain routes to be particularly busy, given that it is the biggest tourist destination for Britons," he added.
Passengers also appeared to be altering travel arrangements for Friday and the weekend - anticipating further disruption.
Eurostar said mainly of its Friday trains, which were already busy due to demand for Spring breaks, were filling up.
And a spokesman for P&O ferries said passengers were "not going to risk any prolonged closure of airports" so were booking ahead.
The grounding of aircraft would cause some short term impact on productivity in the UK as some people were unable to get to work according to the Centre for Economic and Business Research (CEBR).
However the ability for people to work form home, and the tendency to make up lost time later meant it would probably have only a limited impact.
All flights in and out of the UK have been suspended as ash from a volcanic eruption in Iceland moves south.
Safety body Eurocontrol said up to 4,000 flights across northern Europe had so far been affected by the cloud.
The Air Traffic Control Service (Nats) said no flights would be allowed in or out of UK airspace until 1800BST amid fears of engine damage.
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 13:57:59 »

... who has just booked a Eurostar-FGW (First Great Western) journey to replace his flight.    ....

Is volcanic ash less of a problem in the tunnel than the wrong sort of snow  Grin

Seriously - any issues at ground level with ground based vehicle engines?

I don't think so.  The ash is very dispirsed (and most of it is in the upper atmophere anyway).  I think that the problem with aircraft engines is that they suck in such vast quantities of air that the dust accumulates.  When the ash melts at 1200 C it turns into molten glass.  I suspect that only aircraft engines exceed that temperature.

The channel tunnel is full of dust anyway.
Logged
inspector_blakey
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3574



View Profile
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010, 14:58:11 »

The World Service had an interview with Eric Moody, captain of a BA» (British Airways - about) 747 that flew through a cloud of volcanic ash in Indonesia in 1982, temporarily shutting down all four engines (and in fact damaging them so badly that once the plane landed safely they were scrapped). Coincidentally, we ended up discussing exactly the same incident a few days ago here.

But seriously, first the Cod Wars, then the Icelandic banks collapse with lots of British money and now they've shut down our airspace... Coincidence? Wink
Logged
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19555



View Profile Email
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 15:23:39 »

Update: All flights over the UK (United Kingdom) are cancelled until 0700BST on Friday as ash from a volcanic eruption in Iceland causes chaos across Europe.

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

Quote
All flights in and out of the UK and several other European countries have been suspended as ash from a volcanic eruption in Iceland moves south.
Up to 4,000 flights are being cancelled with airspace closed in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark among others.
The UK's air traffic control service (Nats) said no flights would be allowed in or out of UK airspace until 0700 BST on Friday amid fears of engine damage.
The airspace restriction was the worst in living memory, a spokesman said.
Nats suggested that the restrictions were unlikely to be lifted after 0700, saying saying it was "very unlikely that the situation over England will improve in the foreseeable future".
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
smithy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 471


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2010, 16:28:14 »

for anyone who wants to read about what volcanic ash can do to turbofans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9


ground based vehicles are unlikely to be affected due to operating different to plane engines and also not consuming such a vast amount of air.
how ironic as i write this air crash investigation on nat geo is about speedbird 9 over jakarta in 1982
Logged
readytostart
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 608


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2010, 18:33:23 »

Coincidence or a little bit of forward planning by XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))?...the 0634 BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains)-0837 PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) service this morning, which invariably passes south of Exeter on my way to work, was a double Voyager.

Conspiracy theorists can calm down, double set due to 221125 failing at Long Rock, 1M49 0940 PNZ-MAN started at Par, presumably with one of the above units!
Logged
Super Guard
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1308


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2010, 22:15:41 »

And here was me wanting to trial Air South West today.... oh well  Grin
Logged

Any opinions made on this forum are purely personal and my own.  I am in no way speaking for, or offering the views of First Great Western or First Group.

If my employer feels I have broken any aspect of the Social Media Policy, please PM me immediately, so I can rectify without delay.
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 6
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page