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Author Topic: Swindon to Oxford - new proposal from the "Go!" Coop  (Read 97682 times)
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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2010, 13:36:04 »

Welcome to the Coffee Shop forum, dorsetbeachcomber - and thanks for identifying that typo!  Wink

As grahame was a bit rushed when he posted this morning (server problem overnight), I've also amended the link in his post.
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2010, 21:38:12 »

Report on the Go! meeting in Oxford yesterday

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/8115050.Railway_co_op_makes_its_case_for_Swindon_service/
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2010, 13:04:35 »

Is there an opinion on how likely "Go" are to be successful? Is anyone investing in this company?

The launch prospectus enables prospective passengers to invest from as little as ^100.

As a potential passenger I am very inclined to put ^100 into supporting the development of a rail link between Yeovil Junction and Oxford - the prospect of improved rail services at Melksham has my support.

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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2010, 16:43:03 »

Still intrigued as to what stock they will be using, not to mention where it will be maintained, also how moronically slow the service will be.
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2010, 18:36:35 »

Still intrigued as to what stock they will be using ...

Refurbished Mk2 (Mark 2 coach)'s, with loco top and tail.

(Source: Swindon launch meeting presentation, on Wednesday).

Chris  Wink
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2010, 22:36:19 »

Still intrigued as to what stock they will be using, not to mention where it will be maintained, also how moronically slow the service will be.
Cannot be much slower than Newton Abbot to Penzance!
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2010, 02:31:11 »

Given the HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), Voyagers and Turbos whizzing around the section of the route between Chippenham and Oxford, can't imagine the service will be able to drag its heels too much if it's to stand a chance of getting paths. Assuming it doesn't get looped at Challow of course...
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2010, 10:56:37 »

The new issue of Modern Railways says "refurbished trains similar to those of Wrexham & Shropshire are proposed" and adds that they are talking about a joint venture with "an established partner/investor".
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2010, 12:56:29 »

The new issue of Modern Railways says "refurbished trains similar to those of Wrexham & Shropshire are proposed" and adds that they are talking about a joint venture with "an established partner/investor".

They are also talking of stabling overnight at Yeovil, but swapping sets / doing major maintainance stuff somewhere up at the other end.
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2010, 14:49:22 »

The new issue of Modern Railways says "refurbished trains similar to those of Wrexham & Shropshire are proposed" and adds that they are talking about a joint venture with "an established partner/investor".

Interesting, not so sure on the profitablity to be honest, WS&MR (Midland Railway, or Motor Rail, depending on context) at least serve London!
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2010, 20:36:50 »

The new issue of Modern Railways says "refurbished trains similar to those of Wrexham & Shropshire are proposed" and adds that they are talking about a joint venture with "an established partner/investor".

They are also talking of stabling overnight at Yeovil, but swapping sets / doing major maintainance stuff somewhere up at the other end.

According to Go! Co-operative the rolling stock will be MkII coaches (Wrexham & Shropshire use MkIII's) and will be loco hauled with a Driving Brake Standard Open (DBSO (Driving Brake Standard Open (carriage))) so they can operate 'push/pull'. These DBSO date form 1974 and six remain in store.  The trains will run at 100 mph and 3 sets are required (2 to operate the 4 trains per day timetable and 1 spare).  Discussions are still ongoing with possible suppliers.
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2010, 21:19:15 »

Thanks, gwr2006: that is what was said at the Go! coop launch meeting in Swindon on Wednesday morning, too.  Chris.  Wink
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2010, 22:23:38 »

Interesting, not so sure on the profitablity to be honest, WS&MR (Midland Railway, or Motor Rail, depending on context) at least serve London!

At the Go! launch meeting presentation in Swindon on Wednesday, they explained that they didn't want to compete with the existing 'competition' on services into London: they wanted a more 'niche' market.  And Go! have employed professional consultants, who have identified that the core Yeovil to Oxford (and, ultimately, Weymouth to Birmingham) service would be profitable.

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2010, 06:11:07 »

will be loco hauled with a Driving Brake Standard Open (DBSO (Driving Brake Standard Open (carriage))) so they can operate 'push/pull'. These DBSO date form 1974 and six remain in store.
I was only thinking the other day if any DBSOs still existed and why dont FGW (First Great Western) and ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former Train Operating Company)) use them for their loco hauled services rather than hauling a 'dead' loco around?
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2010, 06:41:54 »

I am not sure if a class 67 is wired to work with a DBSO (Driving Brake Standard Open (carriage)). the only loco that can as far as i am aware are class 31's & class 33/1's
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