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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2010, 19:51:42 » |
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IIRC▸ it always was a requirement to have a First class ticket to stand in a First class carriage.
The British Rail MK▸ I BCK▸ (Brake, Composite, Corridor,) have 5 Comparments, of which 2 compartments were First Class (12 Seats), 3 were Third Class {when built, later Second class} 18 seats, 24 seats on Western region.
These coaches had 2 toilets, 1 for second class and 1 for First class, and U could get chinged up for using the First class toilet when travelling 2nd class.
As a bonus what was the "market" the BCK was built for?
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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2010, 19:53:19 » |
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As this situation tends to happen only at Paddington perhaps it would be sensible for the Train Manager to stay in the 1st Class area until after the train leaves, and move the Standard in 1st Demons on before they get comfy.
They often do. After the pre-departure procession you sometimes get the after departure procession as the turfing out process begins of those who don't wish to pay the excess or Weekend First to remain seated in First so you know that the Train Manager can't be far behind so get your ticket ready for inspection. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2010, 20:40:17 » |
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Thanks for your comments, Rob S - and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2010, 21:26:51 » |
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As a bonus what was the "market" the BCK▸ was built for?
Trains which split into portions such as the Atlantic Coast Express! |
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 16:24:22 » |
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As a bonus what was the "market" the BCK▸ was built for?
Trains which split into portions such as the Atlantic Coast Express! Correct, thery were built for splitting into portions for a BCK can be part of a large express or a ONE coach train, (yes with a locomotive). |
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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 19:58:58 » |
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As a bonus what was the "market" the BCK▸ was built for?
Trains which split into portions such as the Atlantic Coast Express! Correct, thery were built for splitting into portions for a BCK can be part of a large express or a ONE coach train, (yes with a locomotive). also known as a 153!!  |
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8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
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« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2010, 22:21:53 » |
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To be fair, two minute before departure they've quite often started the whistle blowing and the shutting of the doors furthest away from the concourse so the train can depart on time.. If two minutes before departure they let all those people carry on up the platform to wherever they fancy getting on they'd start opening all the doors again (and leave them open no doubt), and would then delay departure of the train, especially if they were going all the way to the front...
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« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2010, 23:33:22 » |
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All fine and dandy in the last couple of minutes if the train's effectively ready to go, but I did think it a bit much the other evening when a dispatcher started shouting at me as I walked up platform 2 at Oxford towards the front of an HST▸ past a digital clock showing four minutes to departure time, with a red signal at the platform end and the driver stood in the cab doorway chatting to the colleague he had just replaced.
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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2010, 23:36:23 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2010, 23:45:01 » |
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All fine and dandy in the last couple of minutes if the train's effectively ready to go, but I did think it a bit much the other evening when a dispatcher started shouting at me as I walked up platform 2 at Oxford towards the front of an HST▸ past a digital clock showing four minutes to departure time, with a red signal at the platform end and the driver stood in the cab doorway chatting to the colleague he had just replaced.
Yes, ridiculous isn't it. I've witnessed similar situations many times myself, and it's getting worse. A polite request to close the door behind you (which I'm sure you'd have done anyway) would have been acceptable. |
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« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2010, 23:58:14 » |
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I usually keep a close eye on the time - and the signal - so if I know time is pressing I will get straight on and walk up the train but it's a sight easier to walk up the platforms than dodge sprawling passengers' legs, elbows, newspapers and laptops inside the train.
And yes, being a Cotswold Line regular, I have had a bit of practice at shutting a Mk3 door properly... which on an unstaffed platform of an evening invariably gets a 'thank you' from the senior conductors.
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2010, 09:56:49 » |
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I've never stood in first class before but yesterday morning for some reason the 8.04 Maidenhead to Paddington (originated in Oxford) seemed to be busier than usual.. And it was taking people ages to get on because of this.. So a lot of us had to get on to the first class carriage intending to walk back down to standard class (well I was!) so that the train could get on it's way (it was already a little bit late).. However we ended up getting stuck standing in the First class doorways with nowhere to go.. The train manager did come up and pretty much emptied all the naughty people who had sat down in First class without first class tickets and made them come and stand with us but I imagine he realised there was nowhere for the standing people to go and didn't mention that we shouldn't be there.. It was only the last 20 minutes of the journey anyway..
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« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2010, 17:52:33 » |
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I travel FC‡ on the very train you mention- I have one of those FC Eastbound Only tickets. Unauthorised occupation of FC is a real problem, both vestibule and saloon. The is one particular guy who will push his way to the front of the crowd boarding at the front of coach H and then stand right in the doorway with his rucksack, causing an obstruction to the rest of us getting on. If he went to the far side of the vestibule it would be less of a problem, but he persists in standing there.
I'm glad FGW▸ are trying to sort this problem out. Perhaps they could empty FC of all the chavs on the turbos as well.
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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2010, 19:02:00 » |
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Though the ariticle mentions Weekend First towards the end, I would have thought that it would probably be referring to the occasions when a first advance fare is only a few pounds more than at standard advance, sometimes cheaper.
I wonder how many complaints FGW▸ really do get from people like the person who wrote the article?
Everyone has the right to travel in first but I do sometimes get irritated by those who let you know that they are in the same carriage as you by being noisy. The the only reasons I travel first is for some space and peace and quiet and find it fustrating when I dont get that after paying the extra.
I do see a time coming where there will be only one class of travel both on airlines and trains so enjoy it whilst I can.
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