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« Reply #3180 on: March 20, 2015, 17:33:35 »

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Not really.  There is plenty of space for a third track on the Up side between Reading West station and Southcote Junction with all of the over bridges having a 'spare' arch that could be used.  The boundary fence is quite a way back from the existing track.  The most difficult bit would be the bridge over the A4 at Reading West (McDonalds and Lidl would have to go....... Tongue).

The road past Mcds/Lidl is the A329 Oxford Road (Hence Oxford Rd Junc) not the A4.
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« Reply #3181 on: March 20, 2015, 18:22:57 »

By making all Down Westbury direction freights use the Feeder Line will of course only result in moving the conflict point to Reading West so not much advantage in that Tongue

What is needed next is a third reversible line on the Up side between Reading West and Southcote Junction with or without a possible flyover at the latter Roll Eyes

I think the UM ad DM east of Reading station are together a bit busier than the Up Westbury at Reading West (ignoring freights going round the West Curve of course), so best to have conflict point at the latter I would have thought.   

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« Reply #3182 on: March 20, 2015, 21:13:29 »

Gather someone tried to put an engineering train into platform 3 on Thursday morning only to discover it wouldn't fit and fouled the lines to and from Reading West.
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« Reply #3183 on: March 20, 2015, 23:49:19 »

What is needed next is a third reversible line on the Up side between Reading West and Southcote Junction with or without a possible flyover at the latter Roll Eyes

That's quite heavy engineering through a built up area, isn't it?   Would an alternative capacity increase for freight to Westbury from Reading be to provide a second track from Thingley Junction to Bradford Junction, where there's already a trackbed as that line was double until 1967 (actually double broad gauge in the 1800s!)

For just a few trains maybe ... but (if you believe the Western Route Study - which is not compulsory) the twin track from Swindon to Thingley overloads before Southcote Junction. Plus, of course, those trains don't want to go just between Reading and Westbury. If they are taking aggregate from the Mendips to London, they would need to go through Didcot East which also overloads early. By 2019 its grade separation will likely be at GRIP (Guide to Railway Investment Projects) 3, at most. If they are taking containers of goodies from Southampton to past Birmingham,  they have to get across to Westbury, which is a longer route (though part is identified for possible electrification in CP6 (Control Period 6 - The five year period between 2019 and 2024) as a diversion for the Electric Spine up to Basingstoke).

The Route Study considers the third track from Oxford Road to Southcote, along with grade separation at Southcote (option C4). The third track is a bit more expensive (^35M - ^75M), and includes relocating Reading West station - where to, I wonder. That north part of the formation is between rather short back gardens, so I suspect the idea is to use the width occupied by the platforms so as to avoid any land take.

Part of the analysis of the two parts of option C4 says this (p137):
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Either choice would increase capacity and reduce performance risks along the Route Section. However it is anticipated that the delivery of these choices would still be insufficient to deliver the full 2043 ITSS without compromise to the journey time improvements anticipated in 2019 due to key constrained areas on other Route Sections such as London Paddington to Reading where capacity utilisation is high. The implementation of both choices together is expected to mitigate this with the combined intervention allowing efficiencies to be realised which would reduce the overall cost.

I think that says that either the grade separation or the third track alone would not deliver the hoped-for reliable journey time improvements as the line from London to Reading is so heavily loaded. But doing both would mitigate this. How? Any timing improvements over this short section can't possibly be enough to cancel out the kind of delays that could be produced by a small initial disruption on a fully-loaded 20-minute-plus run out to Reading.
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« Reply #3184 on: March 20, 2015, 23:59:00 »

I had the great pleasure to travel into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) from THA a few times this week.

On Tuesday morning I arrived at RDG(resolve) on the 0800 stopper from THA, looked for the first HST (High Speed Train) into town, and discovered it was an up service from PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) which picked me up on Platform 7.

I'd not seen an up service do that, so expressed some surprise to a despatcher who told me that it's a temporary measure until after Easter.

I know this is because of the lack of a route currently from the Westbury's to Platforms's 9, 10, 11 etc, but was surprised that an up service didn't go into Platform 8 (which was vacant as far as I recall).
One way of looking it is to note that P8, like P7, is a down platform.

Or, if you look at path conflicts, at the London end it's the same as P7 and P8 join and then the up path has to use the Down Main until it can cross over. at the other end there is one conflict with the path of a down train to the Westbury Lines, or with an XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) reverser, whichever platform it uses. However, if the down train is heading toward Didcot, there is no conflict here if it uses P8 and the up train P7, but there is one if they are swapped over.
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« Reply #3185 on: March 26, 2015, 12:36:58 »

Somewhat tangential to the station works - visible progress of the demolition of the station hill buildings is now underway.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/station-hill-development-work-finally-8920810
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« Reply #3186 on: March 26, 2015, 23:38:55 »

Noticed what I think was a tamper at work on one of the feeder lines (near to the old FGW (First Great Western) office building at the southern end of the triangle) when I passed by yesterday.

I guess that building is staying as it looks like the area at the front of it has been tidied up/resurfaced. Is the old train shed (adjacent to the up/down Westbury's) staying or going?
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« Reply #3187 on: March 27, 2015, 10:12:04 »

Noticed what I think was a tamper at work on one of the feeder lines (near to the old FGW (First Great Western) office building at the southern end of the triangle) when I passed by yesterday.

I guess that building is staying as it looks like the area at the front of it has been tidied up/resurfaced. Is the old train shed (adjacent to the up/down Westbury's) staying or going?

I think the upper triangle is definitely becoming sidings for yellow plant, such as tampers; and a delivery site for equipment that come by road.  So it might be that they are keeping the old DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) shed and offices as a maintenance facility for the plant.

Isn't the remaining FGW building the driver training school, where the simulators and so on are fitted?

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« Reply #3188 on: March 30, 2015, 21:29:45 »

Network Rail staff were out in force at Paddington today handing out leaflets about the Easter engineering work.

In particular they were drawing people's attention to the last trains on Thursday 2nd April as the Reading blockade gets underway.

Without listing them all, as a general rule the last trains for most destinations for Reading and beyond are no later than 23:00.

A notable exception is the 23:46 to Oxford which operates via Banbury.

Full list here https://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/-/media/PDF/contents/travel-advice/easter-2015/Easter%20Last%20Train%20Home.pdf
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« Reply #3189 on: April 05, 2015, 14:16:52 »

I don't wish to put a jinx onto it but currently the Reading Easter works seem to be to be running to plan Roll Eyeshttps://mobile.twitter.com/networkrailgwrm
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« Reply #3190 on: April 05, 2015, 14:43:02 »

I have been keeping an eye on this.

Yesterday (Easter Saturday) looking at the pictures, it looked as though the track laying of the relief lines was complete. In the previous weekend possessions was the Scours Lane Junction point replaced (Up Relief to Up Reading Passenger Loop) or has this still to be done?

I cannot work out from the pictures provided what is happening on the URPL. I can see the trailing connection into the Up Relief from it (no track though).

For those interested in OpenTrainTimes, they now have a Paddington map and a Southall to Stockley Bridge / Heathrow map.
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« Reply #3191 on: April 05, 2015, 15:04:01 »

I hope all is done by Tuesday pm. I'm heading for Gatwick.
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« Reply #3192 on: April 05, 2015, 15:13:14 »

I don't wish to put a jinx onto it but currently the Reading Easter works seem to be to be running to plan Roll Eyeshttps://mobile.twitter.com/networkrailgwrm

Thanks for the link.
Lots of photos there.
Is there a publicly viewable link to the time-lapse cameras mentioned?



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« Reply #3193 on: April 05, 2015, 16:15:55 »

I hope all is done by Tuesday pm. I'm heading for Gatwick.

Gatwicks are running anyway....as are SWT (South West Trains) to Waterloo.

Just need to be able to get to Reading from the West...
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« Reply #3194 on: April 05, 2015, 19:47:42 »


Gatwicks are running anyway....as are SWT (South West Trains) to Waterloo.

Just need to be able to get to Reading from the West...

My major fear is bustitution.
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