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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 11:40:20 »

Oh well.. as I said before.. I shall just have to spend a lot of extra time at Paddington in future by arriving extra early..

With respect, a couple of minutes will be sufficient i'm sure  Smiley
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Thanks Donkey Guard.. It was kind of tongue in cheek.. Maybe I'll just pack my running shoes and practise running faster  (also tongue in  cheek)  Grin Wink
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 21:33:26 »

Sorry, on-line TIC (Tourist Information Centre) is sometimes lost on me  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 22:40:53 »

Hmm.. your tongue in cheek perception is probably better than my ability to quote people on here.. I won't correct it though.. so people can see how bad I am at it  Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2010, 00:24:29 »

Funny thing I only ever notice when being dispatched by a FGW (First Great Western) despatcher is that while the rule book (that mysterious excuse us industry people quote) says that the whistle is just a supplement to the handsignal (or in the case of DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) at PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) the CD (Capital Delivery)/RA indicators), whenever I'm despatched at RDG(resolve) any later than right-time then they will just use their baton / lamp and no whistle, no hustle for late comers.

In a way it's another reason to back guards on trains, as you've more chance of a local door still being open, granted on FGW turbos this is the back cab but I have been knows in my previous First career to let a latecomer making an effort through the cab. (Knuckle slap and a posthumous disciplinary from FSR (First Scot Rail) probably, but then again the FGW managers they've bought in can't even open the doors on the right side at a platform (see other threads!) ).
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2010, 23:29:08 »

While I was doing my (far too) regular run to the very far end of Platform 13 about 9.25 today, I noticed the complete lack of clocks once I was through the ticket gates.. There is no clock on platform 12 and both train departure boards (the one at the start of platform 12 and the one between platform 12 and 13), as far as I could see, also had no time on them.. This can't help people short of time to get to the end of platform 13, in knowing whether to jog, run or sprint  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2010, 11:48:14 »

This can't help people short of time to get to the end of platform 13, in knowing whether to jog, run or sprint  Smiley

Oh no, you mustn't run, FGW (First Great Western) elf and safety police will put you on a poster!
"xx number of people were injured rushing at this station"
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2010, 21:59:41 »

This can't help people short of time to get to the end of platform 13, in knowing whether to jog, run or sprint  Smiley

Oh no, you mustn't run, FGW (First Great Western) elf and safety police will put you on a poster!
"xx number of people were injured rushing at this station"

But how else will all the people get to the very very far end of Paddington before their train goes?  Cheesy Wink Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2010, 22:14:20 »

Are trains not announced on the boards in sufficient time to allow for a walk to the country end?

I suspect it is more a case of running to bag a seat......  Wink Grin
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2010, 22:27:10 »

Oh no, you mustn't run, FGW (First Great Western) elf and safety police will put you on a poster!
"xx number of people were injured rushing at this station"

And then Paddington, like the platform 5 island at Reading, will be cursed with a sign containing a speaker that shouts  "May aaah hiv your attention please, thus us un iccident blickspot!" on a loop in a South African accent. Is that object still there or have the platform staff discreetly retired it?! Would drive me up the wall having to listen to it all day. It was bad enough waiting for ten minutes for a connecting train.

Are trains not announced on the boards in sufficient time to allow for a walk to the country end?

My experience of catching trains form Padd is not that extensive, but I've done it often enough and it seems like frequently things are cut surprisingly fine. I'm pretty sure Aunty Doris and her several suitcases would be hard-pushed to make it to her reserved seat in coach A on many occasions.
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2010, 01:48:55 »

And then Paddington, like the platform 5 island at Reading, will be cursed with a sign containing a speaker that shouts  "May aaah hiv your attention please, thus us un iccident blickspot!" on a loop in a South African accent. Is that object still there or have the platform staff discreetly retired it?! Would drive me up the wall having to listen to it all day. It was bad enough waiting for ten minutes for a connecting train.

Fortunately it's been switched off for a couple of months now.  Hopefully permanently for the sanity of station staff and passengers alike!
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2010, 01:59:42 »

Last time I arrived at Bristol International Airport, there was a yellow Dalek-like safety cone at the top of the stairs down to the baggage collection area, warning us to 'mind the step'.

I was sorely tempted to wait until all of my fellow passengers had safely negotiated those stairs, before wellying that irritating cone into oblivion.

Sadly, the omnipresent CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) dissuaded me.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2010, 10:16:24 »

Isn't it amazing?
The passengers (not customers) complain when we don't hold a train for you.
The passengers complain when the train is late at your destination.

Simple, I leave on time and wait for no runners, normally pointing at my watch to show I'm on time.

You may call it bad (customer) service.
I call it good for the passengers who are sat down waiting for me to convey them to there destination.
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2010, 13:33:54 »

So maybe some clocks along platform 12 would be good so we know how fast we have to run to not delay the train?  Currently the first clock after the mad 3/4 minute sprint has started is by the train on platform 13/14 itself Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2010, 14:05:45 »

The passengers (not customers) complain when we don't hold a train for you.
The passengers complain when the train is late at your destination.

Scenario 1: I catch the 17:45 from Paddington to Swindon, with a view to changing onto the 18:44 Southampton train at Swindon.   But then the 17:45 gets held up by a few minutes ("goats on the line at Cholsey") and as I and others making the connection run from platform 4 to the bay at Swindon, the conductor sees us coming, shakes his watch, and closes the doors.

Scenario 2: I start to dash down the steps at the Hammersmith and Teacup platform at Paddington, but when I'm just a few steps down the doors are closed and the train departs.

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Simple, I leave on time and wait for no runners, normally pointing at my watch to show I'm on time.

You may call it bad (customer) service. I call it good for the passengers who are sat down waiting for me to convey them to there destination.

I call your approach reasonable in Scenario 2.  But I accept your invitation to call it bad customer service in scenario 1 ... and I suspect that view would be shared by anyone who was on the train, realised what had happened, and realised the effect of saving that few seconds on passengers for Dilton Marsh (2 hour and 22 minute delay, and an extra change), Melksham (don't even ask when the next train is), etc

We're posting in the "London to Reading" section where trains are more frequent, so perhaps more "Scenario 2" stuff.  But I do think that people have every right to complain if they've been waiting on the concourse and not been given long enough to get to the platform.  If you can't avoid justifiable complaints, someone should look at fixing the system.

P.S. Once you chaps start running a proper TransWilts service - the extra trains as defined by Network Rail's GWRUS (Great Western Route Utilisation Strategy) - then I'll say a big thank you and say "We are scenario 2 too now".  The EXTRA hourly service would mean that missing the 18:44 would simply drop us back to the 19:14 - not 22:01 at Dilton Marsh, but 20:10.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2010, 16:20:59 »

Connections are upto the conductor and control.
I just open the powerhandle when told to.

To catch the 1844 ex Swindon "connection" you should be on the 1730 ex Padd, not the 1745.
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