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« Reply #330 on: August 22, 2008, 20:42:36 » |
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« Reply #331 on: August 22, 2008, 21:00:24 » |
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Liam is correct, they almost definately do not have CDL▸
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« Reply #332 on: August 23, 2008, 09:37:22 » |
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i was drunk again last night...
well they were in mainline use until 2003 thinking about it that was a whi;e ago now but some are still in use as sandite and other trains
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« Reply #333 on: August 23, 2008, 15:48:22 » |
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i was drunk again last night...
well they were in mainline use until 2003 thinking about it that was a whi;e ago now but some are still in use as sandite and other trains
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« Reply #335 on: August 23, 2008, 23:59:33 » |
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im going to start checking before i open my mouth....
bring them back anyway!
Sure, give us the money. |
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« Reply #336 on: August 24, 2008, 09:24:21 » |
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... i know im a little late but... if the 158's were being refitted would you use the only option you have the 142's on longish distance routes (the 158 routes) or would you replace the 158's with the 150's and 153's which you already have and as a short term measure wack the pacers which are fit for purpose onto the branchlines?
maybee its just me but im sure like 10 class 101's could have been brought out of retirement... bonus is that there not restricted to 2 car units you can wack 2 coaches in the middle or couple together
yeh im being nostalgic
bring back the 101's !!!!!!!!!
Nice idea, in fact I still have the neccessary FG1▸ master key.  However even if you could find enough of them in preservation to re-aquire, they do not have CDL▸ , OTMR▸ , TPWS▸ etc and it would cost a small fortune to fit them up as the development costs and paperwork will be spread over a small fleet. Plus a little bit of staff re-training. So its a non runner. |
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« Reply #337 on: August 24, 2008, 10:33:15 » |
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Nice idea, in fact I still have the neccessary FG1▸ master key. However even if you could find enough of them in preservation to re-aquire, they do not have CDL▸ , OTMR▸ , TPWS▸ etc and it would cost a small fortune to fit them up as the development costs and paperwork will be spread over a small fleet. Plus a little bit of staff re-training. So its a non runner. Let me see if I can work that little lot out: OTMR On Train Monitoring Recorder TPWS Train Protection and Warning System CDL Central Door Locking FG1 Dunno that one!I have added the OTMR and TPWS on to our acronyms page: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/acronyms.htmland if you can tell me what the FG1 stands for I'll add that too! Although there may be issues with 101s, there are already previous generation units re-operating on Princes Risborough to Aylesbury, to Cardiff Bay, and they haven't every left the Brockenurst to Lyminton service. They there's Ryde Pier Head to Shanklin. Perhaps the idea's not as crazy as it might (at first) sound. |
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« Reply #338 on: August 24, 2008, 14:35:44 » |
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Ryde Pier Head to Shanklin is a very different case to all of the other mentioned stock. They had CDL▸ from their work with LUL▸ , and were proven to work for many years on the Northern Line. All the other lines are purely segregated lines (single line) and no other stock operates on them while the Mk1 units are in operation.
Unless you can guarantee nothing else on the line will operate other than the 101s, then nope - you cannae run them.
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« Reply #339 on: August 24, 2008, 23:09:22 » |
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we should start a new thread ...'lex's stupid not atall thought out dreams' tell you what if i win the lottery i will buy a 101 and refit it !  |
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« Reply #340 on: August 24, 2008, 23:30:56 » |
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Curiously - where there's a will, there's a way. I can think of some FGW▸ , self contained branch lines that a 101 could run on as "only train" and release stock for elsewhere. In one or two cases, the "heritage effect" would probably encourage more traffic too.
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« Reply #341 on: August 24, 2008, 23:58:41 » |
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As can I, however I quite agree that the cost of doing so is too prohibitive as FGW▸ have a too high premium to pay back to the govt.
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« Reply #342 on: August 25, 2008, 20:42:34 » |
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Interesting subject, Arriva, under Graeme Bunker, bought a class 121 (or 122,not sure) bubble car, refitted it with TPWS▸ , OTMR▸ and CDL▸ and was still deemed to be cheaper than leasing a class 142 pacer over the period of the franchise, as we know, Chiltern had already done the same a couple of years before. a class 101 or 108 would be ideal for the Looe or Newquay branches!
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« Reply #343 on: August 25, 2008, 22:19:30 » |
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where is daisy these days? i used to catch that one from rose hill to manchester p quite alot
those were comfortable seats!!
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« Reply #344 on: August 31, 2008, 13:30:47 » |
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And if you can tell me what the FG1▸ stands for I'll add that too! 'FG1 key' is the control key for 'Blue Square' type heritage DMMU's used for switching in the drivers desk. Looks like the ignition key for a Morris Minor rather than the standard master key used on other traction units. |
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