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« on: February 19, 2010, 21:36:55 » |
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Saw a briefing today stating that Penalty fares are to be introduced on most routes from the 5th April (at the locations where the scheme was meant to go live in 2007) which includes Bristol to westbury, Bristol to Taunton, Exeter to Exmouth, Exeter to Plymouth (including Paignton branch) and Plymouth to Truro, stations which are unstaffed and have no TVM▸ are obviously exempt.
So make sure you buy a ticket!
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JayMac
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 21:48:09 » |
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About time too!
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 21:56:13 » |
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 Bloody hell - thought PLY» - Truro went live yonks ago ! Vac - why Truro - Pnz not being included ??
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 22:07:32 » |
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Excellent!  Just a couple of questions, though: 1. Does 'Bristol to Taunton' include Nailsea & Backwell, both ways? and 2. Is this being publicised at those stations affected (for example, Nailsea & Backwell)? I'm really all in favour of this: it's just that the 'penalty fares' posters at NLS have been a bit of a laughing stock, since they were installed, years ago - even before the ticket machines arrived!  |
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 22:13:21 » |
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The maps for the west stations included in the Penalty Fares scheme have also been on FGW▸ website for some time: http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=1042 |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 16:23:08 » |
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Bloody hell - thought PLY» - Truro went live yonks ago ! Vac - why Truro - Pnz not being included ?? Plymouth - Truro did..-ish. It's never been enforced despite the big yellow & black signs going up 18 months (or more) ago. I presume they actually intend to enforce it this time |
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Brucey
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 16:27:07 » |
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I notice on the Portsmouth/Brighton route, penalty fares don't apply further than Westbury. Same on routes to Wales, nothing further than Bristol Parkway or Filton Abbeywood.
The sceptic inside me makes me wonder if FGW▸ make more money out of selling tickets on the train rather than letting SWT▸ /Southern/ATW▸ take the commission?
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 17:16:23 » |
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I notice on the Portsmouth/Brighton route, penalty fares don't apply further than Westbury. Same on routes to Wales, nothing further than Bristol Parkway or Filton Abbeywood.
The sceptic inside me makes me wonder if FGW▸ make more money out of selling tickets on the train rather than letting SWT▸ /Southern/ATW▸ take the commission?
I know at least six ATW guards that don't sell discount tickets on train - in six years, only one FGW guard refused and he's an acknowleged knob end who was probably responsible for the June upgrade on avantix |
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 18:57:31 » |
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The sceptic inside me makes me wonder if FGW▸ make more money out of selling tickets on the train rather than letting SWT▸ /Southern/ATW▸ take the commission?
The rules are specifically designed so that this cannot happen. FGW get the same cut of a ticket regardless if it is sold on the train or at a station. |
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Brucey
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 18:59:09 » |
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The sceptic inside me makes me wonder if FGW▸ make more money out of selling tickets on the train rather than letting SWT▸ /Southern/ATW▸ take the commission?
The rules are specifically designed so that this cannot happen. FGW get the same cut of a ticket regardless if it is sold on the train or at a station. Doesn't the company who sells the ticket get a cut of the ticket cost? E.g. if you buy a FGW ticket from an SWT station, do SWT get a cut? |
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 19:22:16 » |
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Yes, the sales agent gets a cut which may have changed but used to be about 9%. That's why FGW▸ (or any other TOC▸ , for that matter) is likely to try and encourage you to buy your tickets for any rail journey in the UK▸ , including non-FGW travel, using their website.
Ticket revenue for Bristol - Salisbury journeys for example will be split proportionally between SWT▸ and FGW based on service patterns. But, if an SWT guard sells a Salisbury to Bristol TM‡ ticket, FGW get slightly less money from that sale. The converse obviously also applies. And FGW will make slightly more from tickets for that journey sold at Bristol TM, whereas SWT will get more for tickets sold at Salisbury.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 20:07:19 » |
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Saw a briefing today stating that Penalty fares are to be introduced on most routes from the 5th April (at the locations where the scheme was meant to go live in 2007) which includes Bristol to westbury, Bristol to Taunton, Exeter to Exmouth, Exeter to Plymouth (including Paignton branch) and Plymouth to Truro, stations which are unstaffed and have no TVM▸ are obviously exempt.
So make sure you buy a ticket!
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 20:54:34 » |
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...stations which are unstaffed and have no TVM▸ are obviously exempt.
Not necessarily so. The minimum they have to provide is a Permit to Travel machine, like at Redbridge and Millbrook, (near Southampton). Paul |
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Brucey
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 21:13:23 » |
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Not necessarily so. The minimum they have to provide is a Permit to Travel machine, like at Redbridge and Millbrook, (near Southampton).
Paul
Don't get me started on South West Trains' view of Penalty Fares. It seems they are constantly reminding you about them - whether it be automated announcements, posters or "over-protective" barrier staff. I've also known people who have worked in their "penalty fare call centre" (yes, they really do have one), where they take calls from RPIs▸ who want to check people's details. |
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