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« Reply #135 on: May 21, 2011, 23:17:02 »

That must explain the centre carriage i saw when i passed reading depot on wednesday
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« Reply #136 on: May 22, 2011, 13:23:38 »

Anyone know what happened to it? That 2 car 166 is causing merry hell on the North Downs diagrams  Sad
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« Reply #137 on: May 22, 2011, 14:58:12 »

Surprised it is being used for a three-car duty. The only times I've seen it on the Cotswold Line or at Oxford, it is working two-car diagrams
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« Reply #138 on: May 23, 2011, 06:57:35 »

166218 is in service on the North Downs Line today - working 0634 from Reading.

The windows have been barbed up and a new sticker is shown.

"A new Air Conditioning System is on trial in this train.  Keeping these windows closed will allow the system to operate effectively and be tested, only open them if the system is not taking affect" (sic)

Notwithstanding the poor English, the air conditioning can definitely be heard above the engine noise and appears to be working.  The windows are shut for the moment.

I'll have to observe later if the windows stay shut.

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« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2011, 18:49:30 »

The windows were still shut by this evening. However I'm not convinced about the effectiveness of the aircon- it was working a bit, but there was a whiff of smelly feet coming from the system- much like your car one when it needs regassing.

More work needed I think.
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« Reply #140 on: May 23, 2011, 19:16:48 »

Mark Hopwood said at the CLPG» (Cotswold Line Promotion Group - about) AGM (Annual General Meeting) last Saturday that one class 166 Turbo has been fitted with the new air con and that it seems to be very effective. However in trials, so much power is needed that alternators had failed putting the train out of action. He said that new alternators are on order for the trains so no more 166s will get the new air con until the alternators are fitted. I wonder if the reason that someone has said that the new air con is not very good is perhaps it has been kept below full service so that the single class (166218) can still run in service.
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« Reply #141 on: May 23, 2011, 19:53:28 »

Oh dear.. How many years has the air con been broken.. Ok I know it took Thames Trains and subsequently FGW (First Great Western) many years to admit it was broken so wouldn't do anything about it.. But I think at least 10 years.. I imagine if they really do mend it this time, it'll be ready just in time for winter.. I do wonder why they can't get the same air con as all the other train companies (SW trains and Chiltern spring to mind for example)...
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« Reply #142 on: May 23, 2011, 20:38:38 »

I do wonder why they can't get the same air con as all the other train companies (SW trains and Chiltern spring to mind for example)...

On a warm summers day a few years back I took a trip on a Chiltern turbo which had been refurbished with air con. My memory is that the air con was situated above the seats (my seat in particular) where the luggage rack used to be. It was much more powerful than the FGW (First Great Western) units above the aisle and my poor bald patch took the brunt of the refrigeration. I had cold symptoms for several days afterwards.
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« Reply #143 on: May 23, 2011, 20:48:43 »

Yup, problem well known! Only in places over certain seats, so difficult to fix in given time during 'B' exam, I'm told....
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« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2011, 06:26:31 »

Nice use of the scrolling displays in the carriages of 166202 this morning working the 0514 RDG(resolve)-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains): "Welcome aboard this First Great Western service from Sorry not in service to Sorry not in service calling at Sorry not in service and Sorry not in service" or words to that effect.  Grin
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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2011, 09:21:10 »

Ahem, still a few problems then!  Still no Evesham included in announcements either (though it does appear on the scrolling display). 

One of the problems is that when the system is faulty a driver might not actually realise it unless he/she checks the display in each individual carriage, and the only way of clearing an error is to either reset the system by switching the engines off and then on again, or by resetting the PIS (Passenger Information System) system circuit breakers in each individual carriage - neither of which may be practical even if he/she is aware of the fault.
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« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2011, 12:19:41 »

Nice use of the scrolling displays in the carriages of 166202 this morning working the 0514 RDG(resolve)-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains): "Welcome aboard this First Great Western service from Sorry not in service to Sorry not in service calling at Sorry not in service and Sorry not in service" or words to that effect.  Grin

Hehehe!

The number of times we have pulled into Reading and people have gotten on, only for the system to announce the next stop is Reading as we slowly pull out, is too many to count.

However, the best bit are the looks on all their faces when they suddenly think they are on the wrong train! One bloke leapt out his chair - I thought he was going to pull the emergency stop he was so flustered - no idea why, he got on at Reading, its pulling out of Reading, it can't possibly be stopping at Reading next!

Once its announced every stop as Reading, they soon get used to it though Roll Eyes ...
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« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2011, 23:57:30 »

Indeed.. I was travelling from Maidenhead to Paddington one day last week and it was saying, all the way, that we were pulling into our final station stop.. which was...Oxford... dearie me...
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« Reply #148 on: July 26, 2011, 00:37:44 »

An update on progress:

  • 80% of the Turbo fleet has been refreshed and the work is progressing on schedule.
  • 90% has had the new PIS (Passenger Information System) fitted.  Full fitment expected by the end of next month.  Continuing software updates are slowly adressing the faults, but several still remain.
  • Still just the one operational unit with A/C which is still undergoing testing.  Problems still ongoing, so it'll be next summer before anyone gets any respite from the best of the British summer at the earliest.  I remain a sceptic!
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« Reply #149 on: July 26, 2011, 07:33:43 »

Does the software upgrade include the reprogramming of the words "North Camp"? It currently announces "Northcm".
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