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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 17:25:51 » |
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Unlikely - they are trying to save money!
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 17:59:16 » |
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Unlikely - they are trying to save money!
Charge a pound for it?
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2010, 22:42:11 » |
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 23:24:42 » |
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Well clearly I led a linguistically-deprived childhood - but how on earth you can say those things 'fitted' in a pocket, when an inch or more sticks out of the top of a bog-standard jacket pocket, is a whole new definition of something fitting. Whereas what I will continue to call a pocket timetable most assuredly does fit in its entirety in a pocket, in a jacket or trousers, come to that.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 00:20:16 » |
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Well clearly I led a linguistically-deprived childhood - but how on earth you can say those things 'fitted' in a pocket, when an inch or more sticks out of the top of a bog-standard jacket pocket, is a whole new definition of something fitting. Whereas what I will continue to call a pocket timetable most assuredly does fit in its entirety in a pocket, in a jacket or trousers, come to that.
But calling things by a different name (especially when that name actually describes something else) causes confusion. D/M - why should we have to pay for pocket timetables, something mot other TOCs▸ give out for free - and indeed have done so for years!
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 01:06:20 » |
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Putting the terms pocket timetables and mini timetables through Google produces the following results totals: pocket, 23,500; mini 1,190. So you tell me whose description is the right one. The latter figure does include that website bignosemac so proudly cited, but oddly, this one, offering the same merchandise, seems to have slipped under the radar http://britishrailwaybooks.co.uk/wtt/publicwtt/brpocket.htmlAnd you don't need to worry about paying for them, because they won't be producing them, for the same reason they would rather run a Turbo than an HST▸ off-peak on the Cotswold Line.
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 07:55:43 » |
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I have never in my life heard anyone talk about a mini timetable - except in this thread.
Putting the terms pocket timetables and mini timetables through Google produces the following results totals: pocket, 23,500; mini 1,190. So you tell me whose description is the right one.
Hmm. So that's 1,190 occasions on which the term "mini timetable" has never been used...
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willc
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 09:06:37 » |
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What I said was I had never heard it used. And I'll continue to refer to pocket timetables and timetable booklets in the terms that I understand them if that's alright with you, oh mighty inspector.
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 10:37:41 » |
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 13:29:33 » |
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Just so - and it appears that most of the rest of the world prefers not to use the description mini for pocket timetables, even if a handful of people here seem to believe the rest of us should adopt it.
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 13:46:49 » |
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How about a compromise: We could call the larger sized timetables with staples or a small spine a 'pocket timetable', and the smaller ones that unfold a 'mini-pocket timetable'? Either that or we could decide that it really doesn't matter...
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2010, 13:59:23 » |
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Look - HSTs▸ , as we all call them, are actually not "high speed" trains. (because they don't run above 140 mph, or whatever the "benchmark" is)
However, despite this fact, I still refer to them as HSTs, as that is how they are known to most.
At the same time, I could call the Javelins "HSTs", as they ARE high speed, but this would cause ambiguity and confusion. So I don't. I just go with the flow - like everyone else!
So even though the FGW▸ pocket timetables do not fit into every pocket on this earth doesn't mean you should suddenly call them by something different!
Anyway, back to the advs vs disadvs of the mini timetables...
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2010, 14:39:19 » |
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I thought the benchmark is 125mph?
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2010, 15:53:22 » |
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I thought the benchmark is 125mph?
No, as the GWML▸ , ECML▸ and WCML▸ aren't classified as HSLs. Only HS1▸ is.
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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2010, 16:06:22 » |
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Disadvantage with mini timetables is that they tear very easily.
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