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« on: January 05, 2010, 13:17:50 »

3 services to/from great Malvern all delayed due to safety checks - two pads (one which wad 114 minutes) and a Brighton

what's going on?  About to get the afternoon service home
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 15:32:40 »

A broken fishplate (the piece that holds two sections of jointed track together) near Foregate Street. The local P'way techs were not able to do the usual - which is shore it up and allow 5mph running - as it was quite a severe break, so it took longer than normal to get the trains running.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 17:55:51 »

And they were probably working in snow as well by that time, which wouldn't have made things any easier.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 18:14:54 »

Presumably it's location on one of the single lines at Foregate Street made the problem worse as it delayed trains in both directions from Shrub Hill whilst Drowtwich line trins could still run.

Acording to my Track Maps it would be possible to run Shrub Hill to Tunnel Junction and reverse and vice versa.

Not sure if they are signalled routes or even if FGW (First Great Western) drivers would know the road.

However, it does highlight the problems the rationalisation at Worcester can cause. i wonder of the savings in points and crossing maintnance balances out perfomance fines.

But good for the PW (Permanent Way - the railway track) guys of they did it in the snow, there effort was in the best tradition of the railway.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 18:58:38 »

Don't think that would be possible, as there isn't bi signalling, and you would have to travel the "wrong way" for a bit. The trackwork is very limited. It's about time it was sorted! But I know NR» (Network Rail - home page) won't bother for years.... Cry
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 19:43:35 »

Acording to my Track Maps it would be possible to run Shrub Hill to Tunnel Junction and reverse and vice versa.

Not sure if they are signalled routes or even if FGW (First Great Western) drivers would know the road.

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Don't think that would be possible, as there isn't bi signalling

I think the train could have reversed from Foregate Street to Henwick then gone back thru Foregate on the other line to Tunnel Junction and reversed back into Shrub Hill station, but if it was a FGW service it would definitely need a LM (London Midland - recent franchise) pilot driver and would have taken quite some time to arrange so probably not worth it. Although it was nearly two hours late at Evesham, the broken rail only caused 70 mins of that - the rest was down to that pesky single line to Evesham as the 11:20ex Paddington was coming the other way!
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 13:23:25 »

hst's cant reverse in the tunnel hill tunnel..
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2010, 13:25:56 »

hst's cant reverse in the tunnel hill tunnel..

It was a Turbo.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2010, 15:53:23 »

I caught a FGW (First Great Western) turbo at Shrub hill once that was forced to use the Henwick/Tunnel/Shrub Hill triangle to turn around as there was a problem with the cab at the original front end. It took about 20mins and we all had to get off and hang about on the platform.

I don't know whether or not it was the original FGW driver who performed this operation.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2010, 23:38:54 »

When was it?

If it was a few years ago, then the driver could well have been employed by Central, as they supplied drivers for the Cotswold Line to Thames, then FGW (First Great Western), under contract, a hangover from BR (British Rail(ways)) days. So at that time, the driver would certainly have had the necessary route knowledge to take a tour of the triangle.

The arrangement came to an end when Central stepped up Worcester-Birmingham frequencies and needed all its drivers for its own services.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 22:16:09 »

A broken fishplate (the piece that holds two sections of jointed track together) near Foregate Street.

I'm advised today it was two fish plates.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 22:51:11 »

I'm advised today it was two fish plates.

Quite a catch.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 01:02:08 »

I cod flounder around here, but it's a red herring: the sole reason is that a flat fish plate in the wrong plaice is obviously wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 01:41:27 »

For cod's hake Chris. I nearly fell off me perch laughing (not!).  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 01:48:06 »

Btline started it: I was just caught - hook, line and sinker!  Grin
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