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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 18:25:02 » |
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Crofton, Wiltshire, missed the 'r'
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2010, 19:21:32 » |
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And don't tell me it crept up on them silently.... In my experience unrebuilt WC▸ /BB were pretty quite when running at any speed, very quite exhaust due to multiple blast pipes.
Nope 30th of august 1984 1 hour 33 seconds...look it up
Was that the special Top of the Pops Run? In which case it was a cut down set and did it in the course of the programme.
We watched it from our garge roof, it was going quite fast at Taplow!
However, to get back to subject first line to be 140 London Bristol and on to Exeter and Cardiff which would benefit XC▸ as well. Berks and Hants to follow.
As reflex109 says it beyond Exeter that needs linespeed improvements.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2010, 20:04:42 » |
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oh really? well be fair i was just over a month old at the time and this book and film footage neglected to point this out, but shortened formation or not... the line is obv ok for that speed
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2010, 22:54:50 » |
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I took relex109's advice and 'looked it up'. Very sparse information online about the 'Top of The Pops' (HST▸ 43002) record run between Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads. Have found one source that claims the timing was 1h02m30s.
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2010, 23:14:03 » |
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ok then it seems that there are no reliable sources but as 1 hour 33 seconds is average of over 110 mph im guessing unless it was cleared to run above line speed thats wrong
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 14:28:29 » |
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148 could well have been the top speed.
It was going like the clappers at Taplow. I think in less than 15 minutes from Padd which makes it around 90 mph average from standing start.
I think they had hoped to do it in the even hour.
Don't forget it was a lot easier then for the GM Western Region to say to his traffic, motive power, S&T▸ , civil and mechanical engineers can we do it?
OK lets go!
Although in our risk adverse culture we may say they were foolish, they were professional railwaymen their career would have been on the line if they'd made the decison to go for it if there was any shadow of doubt.
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2010, 16:50:14 » |
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I hate the damn things but would be interesting to see how fast a 221 with tilt activated could do it
I've always thought that would be the most effective solution for the West Country services. 1. Rip out the interior of the Voyagers and put something decent in. (Solve smell too.) 2. Tilt enable Reading to Plymouth. 3. Run 5+4 sets to Plymouth, with one unit travelling onwards to Cornwall. This would enable more effective use of rolling stock west of Plymouth (and thus more through trains) whilst maintaining capacity east of Plymouth. Tilt would give some decent journey time reductions, especially between Exeter and Plymouth, which would more than make up for the few minutes needed to couple/decouple at Plymouth. The only drawback would be that the unit would operate as two separate units to Plymouth, requiring duplicate catering provision, TM‡'s etc. Oh and the underfloor noise. But if it could cut half an hour off Plymouth to London that might be worth it. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2010, 17:23:53 » |
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What is the Top speed of a 125, I found some web site stating 148 m.p.h
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2010, 17:41:30 » |
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I hate the damn things but would be interesting to see how fast a 221 with tilt activated could do it
I've always thought that would be the most effective solution for the West Country services. 1. Rip out the interior of the Voyagers and put something decent in. (Solve smell too.) 2. Tilt enable Reading to Plymouth. 3. Run 5+4 sets to Plymouth, with one unit travelling onwards to Cornwall. This would enable more effective use of rolling stock west of Plymouth (and thus more through trains) whilst maintaining capacity east of Plymouth. Tilt would give some decent journey time reductions, especially between Exeter and Plymouth, which would more than make up for the few minutes needed to couple/decouple at Plymouth. The only drawback would be that the unit would operate as two separate units to Plymouth, requiring duplicate catering provision, TM‡'s etc. Oh and the underfloor noise. But if it could cut half an hour off Plymouth to London that might be worth it. Please no. Many of the Paddington - Penzance services convey passengers for Cornwall stations anyway, certainly in Summer the 1000 PNZ - PAD» will arrive into Plymouth full and standing and leave in the same state. A 4/5 car super vomit couldn't cope with that. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2010, 19:31:25 » |
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And don't tell me it crept up on them silently.... In my experience unrebuilt WC▸ /BB were pretty quite when running at any speed, very quite exhaust due to multiple blast pipes.
Very true ! On that day the steam special was running best part of an hour late, while we were waiting we were well entertained by two RAF▸ Harriers and a Merlin - much noisier than Mr Bulleid's machine - the boat drivers didn't look at them either ! |
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2010, 23:21:39 » |
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Erm ... even as a narrowboat 'driver', I'd always look up at the sound of a Merlin ... !   |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2010, 13:10:07 » |
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Erm ... even as a narrowboat 'driver', I'd always look up at the sound of a Merlin ... ! Ummm..... Errr.......... not that sort of Merlin! ....................... more like:- 3 of RTM▸ 322 |
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