JayMac
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« on: December 16, 2009, 21:43:32 » |
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I've just purchased my copy of the new FGW▸ Network Timetable (^3.00 from all good FGW ticket offices!) and amongst the wealth of information therein are a couple of pages of information on the named trains that FGW run, with a little history behind the name.
It is nice to see a little bit of tradition, harking back to the days of GWR▸ (with a nod to SR‡ in one case). Whilst today's HSTs▸ may not have the romance of steam days of yore, it is still nice to refer to your journey by the name of the service you used.
Here is the information as printed in the timetable (with a little editing on my part). All timings Mon-Fri, unless stated.
The Pembroke Coast Express (Summer Only) The Pembroke Coast Express runs between London Paddington, Swansea and West Wales, and serves towns on and around the Pembrokeshire Coast National Park, that was established in 1952. It is the only park in the UK▸ designated because of its spectacular coastline of rugged cliffs and sandy beaches, and covers a total area of 240 square miles.
The Royal Duchy 1206 Paddington to Penzance 1400 Penzance to Paddington The Royal Duchy is named after the Duchy of Cornwall, one of only two Duchies in the UK. The eldest son of the reigning monarch inherits the title upon birth or upon his parent's succession to the throne.
The Cathedrals Express 0643 Hereford to Paddington 1822 Paddington to Hereford The Cathedrals Express is named after the three cathedral cities on the route between London and Hereford. Oxford cathedral (established 1542), Worcester cathedral (est. 743), and Hereford cathedral (est. 676).
The Red Dragon 0730 Carmarthen to Paddington 1745 Paddington to Carmarthen The Red Dragon (Welsh: Y Ddraig Goch) is named after the mythical beast that appears on the Welsh national flag. Although the flag was only granted official status in 1959, it is claimed to be the oldest national flag still in use, however the origins are now lost in history and myth.
The Mayflower 1106 Paddington to Plymouth 1500 Plymouth to Paddington The Mayflower is named after the ship that transported 102 Pilgrims and crew from Plymouth on a 66 day voyage to the new world of America in 1620.
The Bristolian 0649 Weston-super-Mare to Paddington 1800 Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads The Bristolian was inaugurated in 1935 by the Great Western Railway as an express service between London and Bristol. The name has been in use ever since, a tradition continued by First Great Western.
The Atlantic Coast Express (Summer Only) The ACE was first introduced by the Southern Railway in 1926 running from London Waterloo to several resorts in Devon and Cornwall. The service now operates, in the summer, from London Paddington to Newquay.
The Cheltenham Spa Express 1148 Paddington to Cheltenham Spa 1431 Cheltenham Spa to Paddington This service was named in 1923 by the Great Western Railway. It was the first train in the world to be scheduled to run at over 70mph when, from September 1932, it covered the 77.25 miles between London and Swindon in just 65 minutes.
The Cornish Riviera 1006 Paddington to Penzance 0844 Penzance to Paddington The Cornish Riviera was named by a public competition announced in the August 1904 edition of the Railway Magazine, the prize being 3 guineas (^3.15). The name (originally The Cornish Riviera Limited and referred to simply as 'The Limited' by railwaymen and women) has applied to a morning service between Paddington and Penzance since 1904, ceasing to be used only during the two world wars, making it the oldest surviving named train in the country.
The Night Riviera 2350 Paddington to Penzance (Mon-Fri) 2145 Penzance to Paddington (Mon-Fri) 2345 Paddington to Penzance (Sun) 2115 Penzance to Paddington (Sun) The Night Riviera was named in the 1980s to complement the Cornish Riviera day service and coincided with the introduction of new air-conditioned sleeping cars. First Great Western refurbished the carriages for this train in 2008.
The Merchant Venturer 0730 Paddington to Penzance (via Bristol Temple Meads) This service is named after the Society of Merchant Venturers, a private entrepreneurial and charitable organisation that was formed in 13th century Bristol. In the 19th century the society helped to fund the building of Brunel's Clifton Suspension Bridge and members of the society also helped establish the Great Western Railway.
The Golden Hind 0505 Penzance to Paddington 1803 Paddington to Penzance The Golden Hind was first introduced in the summer of 1964. The launch broke the then record for the time of a Plymouth to London journey. The train encouraged one commuter to buy the first ever 1st class annual season ticket from Taunton to Paddington.
The Saint David 0745 Paddington to Swansea 1128 Swansea to Paddington This service is named after the patron saint of Wales (Welsh: Dewi Sant). St David was born sometime between 462 and 512 and was official recognised as Wales' patron saint in 1120.
The Torbay Express 1000 Paddington to Paignton (Mon-Fri) 1415 Paignton to Paddington (Mon-Fri) 1630 Paddington to Paignton (Sat) 0720 Paignton to Paddington (Sat) The Torbay Express runs between Paddington, Torquay and Paignton and was introduced by the Great Western Railway as one of its premier holiday trains to the popular resorts of Torbay.
The Capitals United 0558 Swansea to Paddington 1645 Paddington to Swansea The name 'Capitals United' was originally used between 1956 and 1963 by British Railways and has been reintroduced by First Great Western to highlight the continuing importance of the rail link between the capitals of England and Wales.
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation." "Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot." "Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 22:27:03 » |
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Did not know there were that many!
I only knew of the rivieras, the red dragon and......
...I apologise........
the cathedrals (non)express
Can they be done under the trades descriptions act?
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grahame
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 22:35:48 » |
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As we're in the lighter side
The "You were up HOW early" 05:19 Gloucester to Southampton
The "Via Melksham - can you spell that?" 17:02 Worcester Foregate Street to Southampton
The "You'll be able to stop for breakfast before you go in to work" 07:02 Westbury to Cheltenham
The "Marginal time" 19:35 Westbury to Cheltanham
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JayMac
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 22:52:46 » |
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Thank-you grahame. I was actually going to end my post with suggestions for other named trains that FGW▸ (or its passengers) might consider. So in the spirit of what grahame has started, over to the forum.....
(Oh, and in the timetable book The Merchant Venturer is also listed as running; 1600 Bristol Temple Meads to Penzance. Shome mishtake shurely....)
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« Last Edit: December 16, 2009, 23:08:17 by bignosemac »
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation." "Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot." "Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 22:55:31 » |
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As we're in the lighter side
The "You were up HOW early" 05:19 Gloucester to Southampton
The "Via Melksham - can you spell that?" 17:02 Worcester Foregate Street to Southampton
The "You'll be able to stop for breakfast before you go in to work" 07:02 Westbury to Cheltenham
The "Marginal time" 19:35 Westbury to Cheltanham
Thank-you grahame. I was actually going to end my post with suggestions for other named trains that FGW▸ (or its passengers) might consider. So in the spirit of what grahame has started, over to the forum..... 0517 Malvern to Paddington The (not) right on time 1751 Paddington to WOS» The whats the point
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 23:00:18 » |
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Just a gentle reminder, if I may: could we please all use 'reply', rather than 'quote', whenever possible ... ?
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 00:16:10 » |
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Bit cheeky pinching the ACE name especialy as it was the Western Region which closed all the SR‡ lines west of Exeter.
Is Brass A..... still used for the Golden hind?
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Mookiemoo
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 00:32:45 » |
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Just a gentle reminder, if I may: could we please all use 'reply', rather than 'quote', whenever possible ... ?
Point taken! Its a bad habit........
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
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"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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dooby13
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 08:44:18 » |
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The Squalid Hunk of Junk All FGW▸ trains headed west of Plymouth of an evening.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 10:05:43 » |
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The Squalid Hunk of Junk All FGW▸ trains headed west of Plymouth of an evening.
Or perhaps even more appropriate in this case: "The perhaps if the Passengers didn't treat the train like a rubbish dump, dooby13 wouldn't have to moan all the time about the state of his trains and be forced to go have a love-in with XC▸ "Or does it need shortening a bit?
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dooby13
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 11:10:30 » |
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So passengers only treat Worst Late Western trains like rubbish dumps - funny that...
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 11:46:05 » |
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passengers treat all trains like rubbish dumps and have been doing so since time began
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 14:13:00 » |
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So passengers only treat Worst Late Western trains like rubbish dumps - funny that...
No, Cross Country do it for you
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dooby13
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 14:21:38 » |
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So passengers only treat Worst Late Western trains like rubbish dumps - funny that...
No, Cross Country do it for you Doesn't really make sense but WHATEVA
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 15:29:57 » |
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Polite request to all concerned, please can we keep this discussion good-natured? There are plenty of other discussion boards all over t'interweb where you can troll to your heart's content. This ain't one of them!
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