Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts

[whole diary]

[ray951]

I must admit I'm surprised Oxford City Council are prepared to allow such a long full closure of Botley Road to cars.  They cycle and footpath routes are going to be very busy!

Maybe they will use it as an experiment to see what happens when one of the major routes into Oxford is shut.
After all there aren't really any alternative routes that vehicles from West Oxford can use to get into Oxford with Botley Road shut, as they either have to go north via the A34 to Peartree or south via the Southern Ring Road, both are which are a very long way round.

[TonyN]

The Orange army have boots on the ground in Botley Road. Attached photo taken 11am today.

[ChrisB]

According to their e-newsletter received today, they are standing practically on top of where they are about to drill a borehole.

[Rostock0]

I must admit I'm surprised Oxford City Council are prepared to allow such a long full closure of Botley Road to cars.  They cycle and footpath routes are going to be very busy!

Oxford City Council probably asked for it to be as long as possible. No-one hates their residents more than Oxford City Council. I think the secretary of state for transport ought to step in here, though. Whatever the benefits are delivered by the railway improvements cannot possibly be worth the devastation caused by closing the only road into Oxford from the west for a year.

[DaveHarries]

Oxford City Council probably asked for it to be as long as possible.

My thoughts also. If they are anything like Bristol City Council then nothing would surprise me at all. I like going to Oxford for work but given the impending disruption that this will cause I am glad I don't live there!

Dave

[stuving]

Oxford City Council probably asked for it to be as long as possible.

My thoughts also. If they are anything like Bristol City Council then nothing would surprise me at all. I like going to Oxford for work but given the impending disruption that this will cause I am glad I don't live there!

Dave

The City Council is planning authority, which deals with the bridge but has little to do with the road underneath it. That belongs to the County, as the local Highway Authority. I'm not sure whether they will be doing some rebuilding of Botley Road outside Network Rail's own project, but they are in any case closely involved with that:

Oxfordshire County Council, as the local Highway Authority, is a key stakeholder in this project. The scope of the project includes highway works in addition to railway works. Whilst the developer Network Rail proposes to replace its existing rail bridges over Botley Road, it will also address:

    the vehicle headroom issues below the bridges (by lowering Botley Road)
    the historic local flooding incidents (by improving the drainage provisions)
    the Active Travel issues (by providing new pedestrian and cycle ways)

The County Council has supported this project to date, with oversight, and is included in the current Detailed Design stage and Traffic Management Planning for Network Rail’s overall delivery process.

[Richard Fairhurst]

The bridge needs replacing regardless of the station works. It's sufficiently low that the bus companies need a special fleet of low-profile double-deckers to fit through it, it's unpleasant for pedestrians and downright lethal for cyclists.

The road won't be "closed", of course, just closed to motor traffic. Pedestrians can still get through and so can cyclists (if they dismount). It might make a few people think twice about driving into Oxford, and as a resident of an Oxfordshire town I know there are plenty of people who could take the direct bus, Park & Ride, or train, but don't. There will be those for whom it's a genuine inconvenience, of course, but I believe the improvements to the bridge for non-private car users - and to the railway, of course - will be worth it in the round.

(Oxford is getting a massive new fleet of electric buses in a couple of years... I presume these will be too tall to fit under the old bridge?)

[CyclingSid]

the Active Travel issues (by providing new pedestrian and cycle ways)

I assume that there will be more cyclists using the old Gas Works bridge as the Grandpont bridge will probably still be closed.

[IndustryInsider]

The City Council is planning authority, which deals with the bridge but has little to do with the road underneath it. That belongs to the County, as the local Highway Authority. I'm not sure whether they will be doing some rebuilding of Botley Road outside Network Rail's own project…

There will be quite a lot of work done on Osney Bridge (on Botley Road over the Thames) as some temporary repairs have been in place for a year or so.

[Red Squirrel]

I must admit I'm surprised Oxford City Council are prepared to allow such a long full closure of Botley Road to cars.  They cycle and footpath routes are going to be very busy!

Oxford City Council probably asked for it to be as long as possible. No-one hates their residents more than Oxford City Council. I think the secretary of state for transport ought to step in here, though. Whatever the benefits are delivered by the railway improvements cannot possibly be worth the devastation caused by closing the only road into Oxford from the west for a year.

Interesting to contrast these two comments. Although IndustryInsider expresses surprise at the length of the closure, they are presumably open to the possibility that the authorities have considered all the options and decided that this is the least worst. Rostock0 on the other hand seems to think they are actively trying to antagonise the people who vote for them.

Which is more likely?

Oxford City Council probably asked for it to be as long as possible.

My thoughts also. If they are anything like Bristol City Council then nothing would surprise me at all. I like going to Oxford for work but given the impending disruption that this will cause I am glad I don't live there!

Dave

My own experience dealing with Bristol City Council (councillors and officers) is that they have an extremely difficult balancing act to perform, on a shoestring budget. I don't envy them. They are very rarely able to make a simple choice between a good and a bad option; they almost always have to choose between a range of options all of which are bad for someone. And they can't just keep things as they are: populations grow, usage and travel patterns change, infrastructure wears out and local and central policies shift for one reason or another.

It takes time and effort to respond to the consultations they put out before starting projects like these, but it's probably the best way to make your voice heard if you genuinely think a mistake is being made. Too late for this scheme though!

[ChrisB]

There are updates from both the Coiunty Council Highways & NR^» (Network Rail - home page) this morning

From OCC

The updated part

The council recognises that there would be challenges implementing the six trial traffic filters during the works for the replacement of the rail bridge and the closure of Botley Road as a result. If the council’s cabinet agrees to implement the trial filters, there would be a further recommendation that this should happen after the Botley Road reopens.

And NR

Community drop-in event – Thursday 17 November
The next community drop-in event is due to be held on afternoon of Thursday 17 November at the West Oxford Community Centre on Botley Road.

Members of the project team will be in the Mary Town Room between 13:00 and 17:00.

[alan_s]

Hi there
I wonder if someone can tell me how much the car park is please? 
If I search on the APCOA^▸ (Car parking company used at GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) - controlled stations in the area) app I can find the station but it does say "see platform for discount" so I assume there is a location code on posters beyond the ticket gates that gives a different price. 
The app seems to quote about 30 quid per day, but national rail and GWR website suggest 6.70 ! 
Parking Saturday to Sunday if this makes a difference.
Cheers
Alan

[ellendune]

Hi there
I wonder if someone can tell me how much the car park is please? 
If I search on the APCOA^▸ (Car parking company used at GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) - controlled stations in the area) app I can find the station but it does say "see platform for discount" so I assume there is a location code on posters beyond the ticket gates that gives a different price. 
The app seems to quote about 30 quid per day, but national rail and GWR website suggest 6.70 ! 
Parking Saturday to Sunday if this makes a difference.
Cheers
Alan

You need to pay online using the app or by phone quoting the car park code number. As I understand it is like Bristol Parkway and there are two codes. If you pay using the publicly available code it is very expensive £30.  However once you are on the platform there is a dot matrix sign with another code which if you use that you get to pay the lower amount £6.70.  It is to try and ensure the car park is for rail users only. 

[ChrisB]

And that code hasn’t changed since introduction!

So anyone who has travelled from there likely knows this code, and can’t be keeping many out these days. I’m almost minded to post it here, in ordee that it might dinally get changed.

[IndustryInsider]

And that code hasn’t changed since introduction!

So anyone who has travelled from there likely knows this code, and can’t be keeping many out these days. I’m almost minded to post it here, in ordee that it might dinally get changed.

I think it changed daily after introduction, but stopped changing some time ago.  It is now considered so unlikely to change that a semi-fixed display also quotes the number as well as the digital display.