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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2009, 12:58:22 »

Am I the only person who much prefers X-C voyagers to FGW (First Great Western) bangers?

Yes.

I'm afraid you're wrong about that: was on 1425 Exeter St Davids to Darlington (an HST (High Speed Train)) on Monday: the vibration was horrendous at times; worse even than the pacer that took me from Barnstaple to Exeter.

The Voyager coming back yesterday was a much smoother ride, and we arrived at Exeter in time for my connecting train, despite the best efforts of East Coast, EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway Ltd, now known as DB Schenker Rail (UK (United Kingdom))) and FGW to leave their unreliable trains in the way at various points on the route...
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2009, 13:56:21 »



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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2009, 14:41:02 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2009, 14:53:44 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.

Really?  So you're at reading waiting for the 1751 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) to WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) when rather than the HST (High Speed Train) you expect up trundles a 2 car 165 (the substituted turbos are nearly always 165).  you have a choice:

Two hours in a sardine can
Wait half an hour for a decent train that only arrives 15 minutes behind the sardine can.

Type of train does not matter?
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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2009, 14:56:03 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.
I agree with this statement as long as the train is suitable for the service.
For example a 1 carriage train on the Newquay branch in the middle of summer is not suitable.
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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2009, 15:14:57 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.

Really?  So you're at reading waiting for the 1751 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) to WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) when rather than the HST (High Speed Train) you expect up trundles a 2 car 165 (the substituted turbos are nearly always 165).  you have a choice:

Two hours in a sardine can
Wait half an hour for a decent train that only arrives 15 minutes behind the sardine can.

Type of train does not matter?
I was referring to type of train not conditions.
In your example waiting the half hour would be worth it if the previous service is grossly over crowded, but if its just no seats left I'd be happy enough getting on and standing all the way. On most trips I do I end up standing anyway, unless I want a read of a paper and I'll find a seat.
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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2009, 15:26:09 »

Am I the only person who much prefers X-C voyagers to FGW (First Great Western) bangers?

Yes.

I'm afraid you're wrong about that: was on 1425 Exeter St Davids to Darlington (an HST (High Speed Train)) on Monday: the vibration was horrendous at times; worse even than the pacer that took me from Barnstaple to Exeter.

The Voyager coming back yesterday was a much smoother ride, and we arrived at Exeter in time for my connecting train, despite the best efforts of East Coast, EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway Ltd, now known as DB Schenker Rail (UK (United Kingdom))) and FGW to leave their unreliable trains in the way at various points on the route...

Hate to be a pedant T_J, but wouldn't EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) - DAR have been an "XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) banger" rather than an "FGW banger" to which dooby13 was referring...??  Wink I'm on the record as saying the XC HSTs are severely over-hyped...  Grin
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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2009, 18:04:27 »

Hate to be a pedant T_J, but wouldn't EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) - DAR have been an "XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) banger" rather than an "FGW (First Great Western) banger" to which dooby13 was referring...??
Ah, you got me!
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« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2009, 18:31:02 »

I remember when VXC (Virgin Cross Country - former franchise) ran Class 47's... Grin

Ah the delights of a proper Buffet and actually being able to get a GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) (makes me sound old) signal so I could at least recieve e-mails when onboard for any length of time Grin

When I go XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) I try to use HST (High Speed Train)'s as at least I CAN get a now 3G/HSDPA Signal and hold a reasonably decent telephone call (In the vestibule of course Wink ) so I can still keep in contact with my Boss and the Server Farm in the Office... Voyagers... Noooooooope... Simply does not happen Tongue

And Listening to XC's First Class Hosts Excuses as to why I CANNOT have a complimentary coffee in 1st but CAN buy one instead wears a little thin when they charge the earth for their journey's as it is...! It's like... Give me a coffee d@mmit...! Angry I'm sure TJ can find an appropriate smiley Grin
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« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2009, 19:16:23 »

I remember when VXC (Virgin Cross Country - former franchise) ran Class 47's... Grin

Ah the delights of a proper Buffet and actually being able to get a GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) (makes me sound old) signal so I could at least recieve e-mails when onboard for any length of time Grin


Elsewhere you say you are 19. What sort of mobile email device did you have the use of as an 11/12 year old back in 2001/2002 prior to the VXC service switching to Voyagers?
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« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2009, 19:45:01 »

Gosh... was it really that long ago...?? Could have sworn I went on a couple when I was 15...??! thinking about it more though it might have been a HST (High Speed Train) Cry
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« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2009, 19:52:26 »

Just Checked my photo collection and it was a HST (High Speed Train) Cry It was the one VXC (Virgin Cross Country - former franchise) hired off of the now non existant Midland Mainline. Used to form the 16:25 Plymouth - York service. Not sure on the return working though...!
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2009, 22:19:58 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.
so if your at Penzance and the 0940 manchester is a 142 you'd be happy? (mind you, would be preferable to a vomit comet!!!)
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« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2009, 22:56:24 »

As far as I'm concerned as long as I get to where I'm going doesn't matter what type of train it is.

Really?  So you're at reading waiting for the 1751 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) to WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) when rather than the HST (High Speed Train) you expect up trundles a 2 car 165 (the substituted turbos are nearly always 165).  you have a choice:

Two hours in a sardine can
Wait half an hour for a decent train that only arrives 15 minutes behind the sardine can.

Type of train does not matter?
I was referring to type of train not conditions.
In your example waiting the half hour would be worth it if the previous service is grossly over crowded, but if its just no seats left I'd be happy enough getting on and standing all the way. On most trips I do I end up standing anyway, unless I want a read of a paper and I'll find a seat.

You see I would not

I at least expect some form of seat
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« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2009, 23:23:53 »

Have to say, as a long-time user of the 17.51, that I can't recall a single occasion when it has been subbed by a two-car 165 - three car 165s yes and also 166s, but never a two-car - even FGW (First Great Western) control aren't that cruel to Oxford commuters.
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