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« on: December 14, 2009, 16:53:33 » |
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With all the hype about providing more seats, as of today, only 2 HST▸ diagrams exist.
1223 and 1523 Plymouth - Edinburgh/Leeds.
How Cross Country can justify this I don't know. Lets hope this breaches franchise agreements, and they are removed from degrading the service even further, if that is even possible.
Edit: I apologise for how Daily Mail the topic title sounds, too many hours spent on knackered out Voyagers in need of some TLC▸ but run by a company cutting costs left right and centre
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 17:20:45 » |
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Eh? Do they run ECS▸ from Neville Hill to Plymouth, are there no southbound HSTs▸ ?
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 17:24:27 » |
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Sad indeed. If they aren't going to use their other HSTs▸ please can they give them to a TOC▸ who will which could then free up some units for use elsewhere.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2009, 17:26:14 » |
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Eh? Do they run ECS▸ from Neville Hill to Plymouth, are there no southbound HSTs▸ ?
Well yeh, the southbound workings run, however couldn't remember off the top of my head |
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 17:34:42 » |
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Hence why I no longer use XC▸ ... they are a bluddy disgrace to the first order...!  Any trip I take now up north I do from Westbury Via Reading and then onto Banbury with FGW▸ and then pick up a Wrexham & Shropshire Service  |
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 17:39:43 » |
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Eh? Do they run ECS▸ from Neville Hill to Plymouth, are there no southbound HSTs▸ ?
Well yeh, the southbound workings run, however couldn't remember off the top of my head Sorry, misread....you did say diagram and not service. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 17:48:15 » |
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To make matters worse, this probably means that overcrowding will return to what were diagrams with 2 voyagers on them allowed to take place because of the hst's. These will no doubt revert so single voyager formation causing more problems. Disgusting way fo running a ranchise but what do we know? We are only passengers that try to use the services
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 17:51:05 » |
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This is the link on XC▸ 's own website to their pocket timetables. http://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/Find_a_train/Pocket_timetables.aspxClick on it and you will see a page with no timetable information! Seems a good way to increase ridership and therefore XC's takings making it easier for them to pay the DfT» premium. Ne t/t starts today but its a secret. you couldn't make it up. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 17:54:34 » |
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Terrible. Sniffy email sent to cross country: ENQUIRY "Quite simple, where are the pdf files on your website for the new pocket timetables? One suspects the lack of them is another penny pinching reduction in service from Arriva Cross Country. Whose benefit are you running a train service for? It sure don't seem to be the passengers." |
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 19:03:26 » |
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Profit - shareholders, are they purposely trying to turn passengers away ?
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 22:30:33 » |
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Bus driving amateurs...I will again be going from York to Falmouth via KX Padd |
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 22:59:23 » |
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Im shocked that they have been allowed to do this!
Will it perhaps only be for the winter time table and once the summer starts, they will reintroduce them all?
Or will they surrender their HSTs▸ ?
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 12:12:14 » |
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Someone posted on here that their Franchise says the "extra seats" have to be in place by Summer 2010, so nothing stopping them withdrawing the HSTs▸ through the Winter and bringing them back for the Summer without breaking any agreements.
I would have hoped all sets would be running for Christmas/New Year period, but who knows.
Apart from that, you can't blame XC▸ for putting Voyagers on if demand is lower and it is more cost effective. Once again business economics, whether you love or loath Voyagers.
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 12:46:07 » |
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I would have hoped all sets would be running for Christmas/New Year period, but who knows.
That will be the acid test. If they're all parked up in sidings from this Friday onwards whilst old grannies are clambering over each other for seats on a 4-car Voyager, I will have to resort to using Btline's favourite word - Appalling!  |
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