"Weston Williamson Unveils Design for Paddington Station" - DBN (09/12/2009)

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[Lee]

From Design Build Network:

Weston Williamson Unveils Design for Paddington Station

UK^▸ (United Kingdom)-based Weston Williamson Architects has unveiled its design for the proposed crossrail station at Paddington, London, which is part of the east-west rail link.

The design features a metal and glass entrance in the north in place of the existing Hammersmith & City Line station, which is to be demolished, while the south side leads to a Grade-I listed building which will be preserved.

The glazed building features a green roof and solar panels, which will be used to power the station lighting.

The station concourse will be used to display art, while a landscaped public square will be created between the new station entrance and Regent's Canal as well as a taxi stand.

The new entrance will serve as a access point for all services.

[Electric train]

Formally known in the 1920's to 50's as Bishops Bridge Road station, great when the world turns full circle (unlike the circle line)

[Boppy]

Ah that's interesting to hear.  Thanks.

If the Hammersmith (and Circle Line from next week) station is to close during the works then it's not going to be much fun travelling Eastbound along the Circle line from Paddington - one stop change please!

Boppy.

[Tim]

Ah that's interesting to hear.  Thanks.

If the Hammersmith (and Circle Line from next week) station is to close during the works then it's not going to be much fun travelling Eastbound along the Circle line from Paddington - one stop change please!

Boppy.

I'd be tempted to walk to Edgeware Road

[eightf48544]

Or get a 27 or 205 bus which drops you right by Edgware Road Circle Line station.

[Electric train]

Had a little snippet of infor this week regards Crossrail, to reduce the cost the design of some of the stations at the eastern end of the core may be  reduced in grandeur also the core to Abby Wood is likely to retain its existing 3rd rail electrification rather than be converted to 25kv OHLE

[Btline]

A bit of a shame that the H&C station is being demolished, as I thought it was the world's oldest Underground station.

[Electric train]

A bit of a shame that the H&C station is being demolished, as I thought it was the world's oldest Underground station.

The current platform 15 / 16 date from the 1920's or 30's  the original underground station I believe is the one in Parade St

[paul7575]

Had a little snippet of infor this week regards Crossrail, to reduce the cost the design of some of the stations at the eastern end of the core may be  reduced in grandeur also the core to Abby Wood is likely to retain its existing 3rd rail electrification rather than be converted to 25kv OHLE

Sorry, but how can the line to Abbey Wood retain its existing third rail? Except for a short single track length in the docks which used to be a part of the NLL, it is all brand new alignment. It doesn't even join up with the existing Kent lines until it gets to Abbey Wood station.  I also believe that on any new construction, OHLE will be cheaper than third rail.

Paul

[John R]

Wouldn't it mean the Crossrail trains would have to be dual voltage? Can't see that happening just to save a modest amount of re-electrification.

[paul7575]

Thinking about this dual voltage could make sense if Crossrail service is extended beyond Abbey Wood - the alignment needed for four tracking is safeguarded, but a cheapo version could use the existing two tracks beyond Abbey Wood.  Perhaps that's where the idea comes from?

Paul

[Btline]

I suppose it is not surprising cost cutting is starting*. Although it is annoying, it is VITAL that we get the central tunnels built to relieve the Tube; if that means less work at the extremities, so be it!

*and remember that the Tories have yet to commit to Xrail!

[John R]

I agree with Btline's views. We don't need cathedral like structures in the suburbs - just fit for purpose stations that can handle the volumes comfortably.

[paul7575]

I don't think there has ever been any suggestion of 'cathedral like' Crossrail stations in the suburbs. Between Paddington and Whitechapel they are all new underground stations, built to allow the necessary capacity, and all double ended (ie 2 entrances) except Whitechapel. So they'll need to deal with 10 car mainline trains - stations about the size of the Jubilee extension will be needed.

Elsewhere on the GWML^▸ (Great Western Main Line) and GEML^▸ (Great Eastern Main Line) though, nearly all are existing suburban stations which will have platforms lengthened to allow 10 car trains. Woolwich Arsenal will be new, apparently in a basement, and Customs House will be 90% new, but I can't see either being cathedral like...

Paul

[Electric train]

Had a little snippet of infor this week regards Crossrail, to reduce the cost the design of some of the stations at the eastern end of the core may be  reduced in grandeur also the core to Abby Wood is likely to retain its existing 3rd rail electrification rather than be converted to 25kv OHLE

Sorry, but how can the line to Abbey Wood retain its existing third rail? Except for a short single track length in the docks which used to be a part of the NLL, it is all brand new alignment. It doesn't even join up with the existing Kent lines until it gets to Abbey Wood station.  I also believe that on any new construction, OHLE will be cheaper than third rail.

Paul

The info cames out of the NR^» (Network Rail - home page) Crossrail team the savings would come from the reduction in tunnel size, however I do suspect this is accountants talking without fully realising the consequences.