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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 22:23:54 » |
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Neither the Worcesters (London Midland) or Swansea (ATW▸ ) are managed by FGW▸ of course.
TOCs investment in stations is normally decided at the time the franchise is let, and usually happens in the first few years of a franchise - otherwise there is no payback.
If the TOC doesn't pay, its either down to Network Rail, which has not been hugely enthusiastic to date (but is now singing a different tune), or to local/national government funded schemes.
So, for Swansea, try the Welsh National Assembly, and for Worcester.............?
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 23:11:59 » |
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But the funding for station refurbishment would come from Network rail so who manages the station is somewhat of a red herring as they would not be responsible for the work.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2009, 23:19:45 » |
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But more could be done with what there is. A clean would help. Then ticket barriers, better stairs, HST▸ length platforms, extended canopies, more seating. Rename Worcester Central.
And can somebody please re-open that damn waiting room on the up platform at Shrub Hill!!!
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 23:38:35 » |
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BBC» Magazine article here: 'What makes a terrible railway station?'
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2009, 23:53:15 » |
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Worcester's facilities are woeful! We need a new or refurbished City Centre station, then a parkway at Shrub Hill.
Of course, we almost had one. But Tesco did their bit for the community by scuppering it (and probably scuppering many other businesses in the area).
But more could be done with what there is. A clean would help. Then ticket barriers, better stairs, HST▸ length platforms, extended canopies, more seating. Rename Worcester Central.
Shrub Hill needs pulling down (not the building) and starting again. It is a decaying ruin. Remove the through tracks, use the space for a bigger "concourse" and three through platforms. Ticket barriers installed. Rename Worcester Parkway.
Or shut and flatten Shrub Hill and build Parkway at Norton.
How would I get to Norton? From Ludlow
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2009, 16:09:12 » |
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Hence my preference for Shrub Hill to be the Parkway.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2009, 15:43:12 » |
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I really don't think there's a need for two city centre stations in Worcester. What's needed is one in the centre for the schools traffic (which is a huge component of the rush hour) and one out by a major road for people to drive to. I vote for the Flatten Shrub Hill plan. I'm sure the listed waiting room could be moved.
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Btline
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2009, 19:02:18 » |
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I really don't think there's a need for two city centre stations in Worcester. What's needed is one in the centre for the schools traffic (which is a huge component of the rush hour) and one out by a major road for people to drive to. I vote for the Flatten Shrub Hill plan. I'm sure the listed waiting room could be moved.
But you need a station on at least 2 sides of the triangle in the city centre. WOF can't cope with any extra trains, so some have to stop at WOS» . So that's why I think Shrub Hill should be retained as a parkway. But the whole site should be flattened, there is scope for a huge car park. I couldn't care less about the listed waiting room. Move it brick by brick to a preserved line somewhere!
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2009, 19:11:35 » |
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Why must it be called a Parkway?
I park my car at Totnes, does that deem it a Parkway station?
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Btline
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2009, 14:01:31 » |
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Why must it be called a Parkway?
I park my car at Totnes, does that deem it a Parkway station?
Because then Worcester would have "Worcester Central" - clearly a city centre station; and "Worcester Parkway" - clearly a less central station with ample of car parking. This would simplify public transport a lot, and allow visitors and new commuters to easily pick their station.
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2009, 20:02:07 » |
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Can we have a more original name!!
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« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2009, 23:46:03 » |
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'Worcester Commuter', perhaps?
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2009, 19:37:47 » |
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Worcester Wasteland?
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2009, 19:39:02 » |
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Worcester Wasteland?
Is that before or after you flatten Shrub Hill?...
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