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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2009, 01:26:29 »

Hmm.  Sorry, devon_metro, but I'm not convinced. Our FGW (First Great Western) platform staff (the excellent Dave) certainly wore orange - I was under the impression that's the 'recognised' colour for platform staff?

See http://www.satra.co.uk/spotlight/article_view.php?id=209

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Whereas the European standard permits several different colours of high visibility materials, the railway standard specifies an orange colour.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 03:11:57 »

Railway group standard is for orange HV, but it is only necessary when working "on or about the line" - there is no rule-book requirement at all for staff to wear HV clothing in public areas. Other "group standard" specifications include the pattern of reflective tapes on the garments (these are picked up very effectively by train headlamps in the dark) and also the requirement for them to tear off easily, with either velcro or press-studs at the shoulder and waist, should the wearer become hooked on a moving piece of equipment. Drivers and guards are always to the best of my knowledge competent in "personal track safety", and will carry with them HV clothing in case they need to do anything at the lineside. The same is not always (or ever, these days?) true of platform staff.

I've seen and heard various explanations for orange rather than green as the standard colour, I have no idea which if any is the correct one. The suggestions are the orange is less inclined to blend in with line-side vegetation, that it enables railway personnel to be distinguished quickly from emergency services at the scene of an accident, or that in the dark yellow HV can look like a green flag if it catches the light. The last one has a veneer of plausibility, until you remember that hand-signalling in the dark is done using lamps, not flags.
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 10:19:33 »

After doing a bit of Googling, I managed to find the most isolated railway station on the National Rail network and, surprisingly, it's on there - Corrour (CRR): http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/CRR/plan.html

I wonder which is the most rural/isolated on the FGW (First Great Western) network?
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 10:46:11 »

I always assumed orange was the Hi Vis colour for track-side staff because if they wore yellow they woudl not be so easy to see if they were standing in front of the yellow safety paint on the end of trains and other plant.

IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly) amateur photographers are not suposed to wear hi-vis on platforms and in stations so that they do not get mistaken for trackside staff.  Slightly hypocritical for a professional railway prhotographer to do the same then.
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 14:23:30 »

a professional railway prhotographer

Using the modern day equivalent of a "Box Brownie" ?
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 17:51:45 »

After doing a bit of Googling, I managed to find the most isolated railway station on the National Rail network and, surprisingly, it's on there - Corrour (CRR): http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/CRR/plan.html

Corrour would appear to have competition from Altnabreac -
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/ABC/plan.html

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/84058

http://www.jbutler.org.uk/e2e/csw/w11/index.shtml
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 19:48:35 »

How do those stations compare to Dyfi/Dovey Junction (no road access, but a 3/4 mile-long footpath from Glandyfi) in terms of isolation?
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 22:52:25 »

Ignore all this tosh about the colour of the vests...surely the Adonis (admire him as I do) should be clocking these snaps and demanding "everyday" improvements!! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2009, 01:33:46 »

How do those stations compare to Dyfi/Dovey Junction (no road access, but a 3/4 mile-long footpath from Glandyfi) in terms of isolation?

I'll throw Berney Arms into the mix.

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/BYA/plan.html

According to Wikipedia, it's 3.5 miles from the nearest road and only accessible by train, boat, on foot or horseback. Not sure what you do with your equine friend if you plan to board a train - unless you've got a folding horse!

Also, just look at the platform 'shelter'. Can't shelter from much in that...

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2009, 01:49:24 »

I wonder which is the most rural/isolated on the FGW (First Great Western) network?

Not necessarily the most rural/isolated FGW operated station, but definitely the hardest to get to/from by train:

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/pil/plan.html

Just one 'parliamentary' service a week in each direction!

(Now, just for fun..... There is one public station on the UK (United Kingdom) network that is only accessible by train. No road or footpath access at all.....?)
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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2009, 02:32:26 »

Coombe, in Cornwall?  Undecided
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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2009, 02:45:29 »

Coombe, in Cornwall?  Undecided

Nope Cheesy

There appears to be a footpath to the platform at Coombe (Junction <Halt>).....

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~owend/I/R/stnpages/coombejunction.html

....dunno where it goes though!
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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2009, 03:12:50 »

Smallbrook Junction

Edit: For those who don't know it's on the Island Line =]
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« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2009, 03:19:58 »

Well done, Ollie. And quick edit as well. No point replying to a non existent post Grin Grin
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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2009, 03:22:49 »

Well done, Ollie. And quick edit as well. No point replying to a non existent post Grin Grin
In my original post I mentioned Berney Arms Tongue Until I looked up the page and saw you had put it, and then read what you had said properly Smiley
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