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« Reply #75 on: November 11, 2009, 19:06:53 »

I would buy them if I had the line inplace to sidmouth! I would even lease a couple to the melksham project :-) ok now I just need about 100 mil for my 8 mile branch line and stations

Mil? That's far too cheap. I would say at least 100 bil - this is a small scale project!

i didnt cost in the rolling stock... how much would a bus with no steering wheel set me back?
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2009, 13:21:15 »

Northern get 7 x 142 back in a far better condition than they were when they were fetched off their seagull poo infested sidings and sent West as of December 2007. What more do they want?
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Northern didn't touch the 142s that went to FGW (First Great Western) as it was their plan at the time to get 142s replaced with larger units ASAP.  They now realise ASAP may not be for another few years and with ever increasing passenger numbers in the North they need to hang on to the trains they currently have even if they get cascaded trains from elsewhere.  Hence, the the ex-First North Western 142s with Northern have mostly been repainted and had replacement seat covers, meaning the ones at FGW are more likely to be in worse conditions as it's likely FGW will spend as little possible on repairs and maintainence over the next year.
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« Reply #77 on: November 15, 2009, 15:31:02 »

Northern get 7 x 142 back in a far better condition than they were when they were fetched off their seagull poo infested sidings and sent West as of December 2007. What more do they want?
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Northern didn't touch the 142s that went to FGW (First Great Western) as it was their plan at the time to get 142s replaced with larger units ASAP.  They now realise ASAP may not be for another few years and with ever increasing passenger numbers in the North they need to hang on to the trains they currently have even if they get cascaded trains from elsewhere.  Hence, the the ex-First North Western 142s with Northern have mostly been repainted and had replacement seat covers, meaning the ones at FGW are more likely to be in worse conditions as it's likely FGW will spend as little possible on repairs and maintainence over the next year.
you've obviously not been on an FGW one then, now have been internally repainted, new seat covers, de-fleaed, mushrooms removed and they actually go more than 7 feet without failing now! no doubt when Northern get them back they will soon be bodged back to how they were like the rest of the Northern fleet!
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« Reply #78 on: November 15, 2009, 20:12:48 »

No disrespect to Northern... But whenever I travelled on one of their 142's... The toilets were never in a usable condition Angry having said that... the rest of their fleet doesn't fair much better either... certainly a case of wait till the connecting LM (London Midland - recent franchise) Desiro Cheesy
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« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2009, 11:59:49 »

you've obviously not been on an FGW (First Great Western) one then, now have been internally repainted, new seat covers, de-fleaed, mushrooms removed and they actually go more than 7 feet without failing now! no doubt when Northern get them back they will soon be bodged back to how they were like the rest of the Northern fleet!

No i've not been on a FGW one but was aware of the interior refurbishment.  I didn't say FGW had done nothing on the 142s I said it's unlikely they'll spend a lot on 142s if they're set to lose them next year.  I was meaning if something goes wrong and a repair will last for 6 months but a replacement part would last for years I doubt FGW will get the replacement part.

As far as I'm aware the FGW refurb is to the same sort of standard as Northern have refurbished their 142s to- the difference being the blue North Western Trains seat covers on the Northern 142s have been replaced by purple seat covers, rather than seat covers in a First Group dynamic lines style and FGW haven't used the nasty dusky pink colour paint that Northern used.
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« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2009, 13:43:11 »

you've obviously not been on an FGW (First Great Western) one then, now have been internally repainted, new seat covers, de-fleaed, mushrooms removed and they actually go more than 7 feet without failing now! no doubt when Northern get them back they will soon be bodged back to how they were like the rest of the Northern fleet!

No i've not been on a FGW one but was aware of the interior refurbishment.  I didn't say FGW had done nothing on the 142s I said it's unlikely they'll spend a lot on 142s if they're set to lose them next year.  I was meaning if something goes wrong and a repair will last for 6 months but a replacement part would last for years I doubt FGW will get the replacement part.

As far as I'm aware the FGW refurb is to the same sort of standard as Northern have refurbished their 142s to- the difference being the blue North Western Trains seat covers on the Northern 142s have been replaced by purple seat covers, rather than seat covers in a First Group dynamic lines style and FGW haven't used the nasty dusky pink colour paint that Northern used.

They will go back in a far better condition than when "donated" by Northern
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« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2009, 16:13:54 »

you've obviously not been on an FGW (First Great Western) one then, now have been internally repainted, new seat covers, de-fleaed, mushrooms removed and they actually go more than 7 feet without failing now! no doubt when Northern get them back they will soon be bodged back to how they were like the rest of the Northern fleet!

No i've not been on a FGW one but was aware of the interior refurbishment.  I didn't say FGW had done nothing on the 142s I said it's unlikely they'll spend a lot on 142s if they're set to lose them next year.  I was meaning if something goes wrong and a repair will last for 6 months but a replacement part would last for years I doubt FGW will get the replacement part.

i agree with that  Smiley

As far as I'm aware the FGW refurb is to the same sort of standard as Northern have refurbished their 142s to- the difference being the blue North Western Trains seat covers on the Northern 142s have been replaced by purple seat covers, rather than seat covers in a First Group dynamic lines style and FGW haven't used the nasty dusky pink colour paint that Northern used.

They will go back in a far better condition than when "donated" by Northern
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« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2009, 19:51:13 »

Sorry to divert the subject, but it is back to original topic:

Just to clarify, i was informed several weeks back that we are only getting 2-car 150/1s from LORL/LM (London Midland - recent franchise), no 3-car hybrid 150/1/2s are planned to come to FGW (First Great Western) land and they will presumbly be sent elsewhere or split up somehow.

Been told that for a fleet that most people expected to have been run into the ground, the LM 150 fleet are actually in quite a good state overall.

Interesting times ahead, we always like a new Challenge at the wests premier Bus depot!  Grin Wink
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« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2009, 19:55:30 »

Interesting times ahead, we always like a new Challenge at the wests premier Bus depot!  Grin Wink

Hadn't realised you had transferred to 83C.......
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« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2009, 12:38:59 »

Sprog - I've been away, so sorry if this info has already been posted, but can you tell me how many 2-car 150/1s you are expecting?
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« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2009, 16:51:51 »

Been told that for a fleet that most people expected to have been run into the ground, the LM (London Midland - recent franchise) 150 fleet are actually in quite a good state overall.

You've been told wrong.
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« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2009, 17:03:11 »

You've been told wrong.

No offence but it is highly likely that Sprog has access to more reliable information so is more likely to know the condition of the units so the maintenance team know what to expect
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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2009, 17:23:02 »

As FGW (First Great Western) are already running ex Silverlink Metro 150s, presumably that gives them a fair idea of the state of the other (now LO) units anyway?

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« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2009, 21:53:44 »

No offence but it is highly likely that Sprog has access to more reliable information so is more likely to know the condition of the units so the maintenance team know what to expect

Maybe so, but from a passenger's point of view....
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« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2009, 22:00:40 »

No offence but it is highly likely that Sprog has access to more reliable information so is more likely to know the condition of the units so the maintenance team know what to expect

Maybe so, but from a passenger's point of view....
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