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« on: October 21, 2009, 18:21:23 »

Early details from FGW (First Great Western) regarding upcoming signalling and track work taking place between Bristol-Newport:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=4396
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 18:50:41 »

Whilst closing the tunnel over the christmas period will no doubt badly effect punters travelling to/from South Wales it has given a bonus to users of Bristol Temple Meads. There will be 3 trains an hour to Paddington with an extra xx46 (xx44 on Sun 27th Dec) departure via Bristol Parkway.

On 28th-31st December the first two departures from Hereford to Paddington are extended to start from Cardiff Central at 0428 and 0515. Can't quite see what benefit this offers passengers though, upwards of 5 hours to Paddington versus 3 hours by replacement bus then train. HSTs (High Speed Train) through Abergavenny will be a novel sight though!
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 19:20:44 »

HSTs (High Speed Train) run through abergavenny every day....problem is you need to be there very early or very late to see them as this is the route normally taken by the bristol to hereford ecs workings
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 19:54:23 »

Whilst closing the tunnel over the christmas period will no doubt badly effect punters travelling to/from South Wales it has given a bonus to users of Bristol Temple Meads. There will be 3 trains an hour to Paddington with an extra xx46 (xx44 on Sun 27th Dec) departure via Bristol Parkway.

On 28th-31st December the first two departures from Hereford to Paddington are extended to start from Cardiff Central at 0428 and 0515. Can't quite see what benefit this offers passengers though, upwards of 5 hours to Paddington versus 3 hours by replacement bus then train. HSTs (High Speed Train) through Abergavenny will be a novel sight though!

Some people are unable to be transported on coaches, or would just rather take a through train.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 23:20:58 »

At 0428?!  Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 01:18:25 »

You just never know. And I'm sure some insomniac rare rail mileage and traction types will jump at the chance of an HST (High Speed Train) run up the North & West line in pitch darkness. FGW (First Great Western) are already paying the crews and burning the fuel on the ecs runs anyway, so why not give people the option, however mad it may seem?
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 07:18:26 »

At 0428?!  Shocked

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 22:42:18 »

I have an excuse... I might have been last active at 0358 BST but given that I'm living on Eastern Standard Time these days that's 2258 to me!  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 11:52:28 »

Well also i have noticed that FGW (First Great Western) have reduced the journey times on some of their Swansea - Bristol - London services.

For example the 05:59 Swansea - London Paddington service which currently arrived into London at 09:06 will now arrive into London at 08:55 this is because the service will no longer stop at Didcot Parkway.

Also the 20:15 London Paddington - Swansea service will no longer sit arround for 12 minutes in Cardiff and will run ahead of the Cardiff - Maesteg service and arrive into Swansea at 23:15
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 13:57:29 »

An update on the Christmas / New Year engineering work, from WalesOnline:

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The direct rail link between South Wales and London will be severed for 10 days over the Christmas and New Year holiday, because of major engineering works.

Network Rail claims the closure from Christmas Eve to the early hours of 4 January is essential because of the volume of work involved, and Christmas is the quietest time of the year for it.

The work will hit the section of track between Newport and the stations at Bristol Parkway and Gloucester, with rail travellers being bussed across the border.

The engineering work will tackle the main line from eastern Newport to the outskirts of Bristol, with 81 new signals and 26 miles of power cables being put in place.

The diversion via Chepstow ^ traditionally used whenever the Severn Tunnel is closed ^ will not be available, and trains will not run from Cardiff to Birmingham.

Severn Tunnel Junction, where the London and Chepstow lines diverge, is being rebuilt, with a new platform for Bristol-bound passengers. As a result of the move signallers will move from a 1960s signal box in Newport to computerised facilities in Cardiff^s new ^17m South Wales Control Centre, where 11 jobs have been created with another six to follow next year. Over the past two years, engineers have installed equipment alongside the existing signals and tracks, often working at night or weekends. However, the new track at Severn Tunnel Junction will take days to install, and all new equipment must be rigorously tested for safety before the railway can reopen.

Engineers will work on Christmas Day and Boxing Day and around the clock to finish the work as quickly as possible.

Jenny Randerson AM, Welsh Liberal Democrat transport spokesperson, said: ^It^s probably better to do it in one long period than in lots of short periods, although it will be very disruptive. I welcome the investment to modernise the signalling, but their communication needs to improve.

^We have three sets of friends and relatives coming to visit who are railway-savvy. They looked on the website and bought their tickets well in advance because it^s Christmas. You have to, to ensure you get a seat. They weren^t told about the disruption. They should have been alerted to it when they bought their tickets.^

This week, the websites of National Rail Enquiries and First Great Western have been notifying passengers that buses will replace trains in the area. Over the coming weeks, Arriva Trains Wales will use on-train announcements to alert passengers.

^The information will also be available by December 1 on our website,^ said an ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) spokeswoman. ^There^s a comprehensive communications plan coming into play.^

Network Rail is spending ^150m on new signalling around Newport. Some of the programme was deferred until the end of next year, to avoid the risk of it affecting the Ryder Cup in October.

Network Rail was fined ^14m after a New Year shut-down at Rugby overran two years ago, preventing trains from Holyhead, Glasgow and Manchester reaching London Euston. An Easter 2007 shut-down while new signals were commissioned between Bridgend and Port Talbot overran by several days, when no trains ran between Swansea and Cardiff.

Network Rail has taken steps to avoid a repeat. Backup machinery will be stationed at worksites, in case of breakdowns. The work has been divided into four stages for clear management, and the entire plan of action has been ^risk assessed^ to spot potential banana skins. Chris Rayner, Network Rail^s western route director, said the scheme would reverse years of decline at Severn Tunnel Junction. ^While this work will significantly boost performance, it will also provide the potential for more trains to travel through in the future,^ he said.

Cardiff city centre manager Paul Williams voiced some concerns over the disruption, which comes when sales shoppers should be attracted to Cardiff. He said: ^A lot more people will be coming to Cardiff because of the new shopping centre but there are other options for travel. This kind of work has to be done and it^s never really convenient, but Network Rail believe this is the best time to do it.^
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 16:34:10 »

ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) website says

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Engineering work between Bristol Parkway / Gloucester and Newport (South Wales) between Sunday 27 December 2009 and Sunday 3 January 2010


Arriva Trains Wales

Buses replace trains between Gloucester and Newport with journey times extended by up to 60 minutes

Cross Country

Buses replace trains between Gloucester and Newport

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London Paddington - Cardiff / Swansea

There are no through trains between London and South Wales during this period.

Trains will be diverted and start / terminate at Bristol Temple Meads

Buses replace trains between Bristol Parkway and Newport

A revised service will run between Newport, Cardiff Central, Swansea and Carmarthen

Journey times may be extended by up to 60 minutes

Portsmouth Harbour / Weston super Mare / Taunton - Cardiff

Trains will not run between Bristol Parkway and Cardiff.

Buses replace trains between:
Bristol Parkway and Newport
Bristol Parkway, Patchway and Severn Tunnel Junction

A revised service will run between Newport, Swansea and Carmarthen

Journey times may be extended by up to 60 minutes

Severn Tunnel Junction

During this work bus services will not stop at the station. The bus pick up/drop off point will be Rogiet Pool, Caldicot Road approximately half a mile from the station.
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 17:00:28 »

Whilst closing the tunnel over the christmas period will no doubt badly effect punters travelling to/from South Wales it has given a bonus to users of Bristol Temple Meads. There will be 3 trains an hour to Paddington with an extra xx46 (xx44 on Sun 27th Dec) departure via Bristol Parkway.

On 28th-31st December the first two departures from Hereford to Paddington are extended to start from Cardiff Central at 0428 and 0515. Can't quite see what benefit this offers passengers though, upwards of 5 hours to Paddington versus 3 hours by replacement bus then train. HSTs (High Speed Train) through Abergavenny will be a novel sight though!

Some people are unable to be transported on coaches, or would just rather take a through train.

I CANNOT travel by coach - its just not an option.  I would be vomiting within about 15 minutes.


So if I had to do tht journey I would either get the train at 0428 or drive across the border to Bristol
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 22:28:37 »

Network Rail press release today for the Wales region:-

During this festive period, nearly all the routes in Wales remain unaffected by improvement work with rail services operating business as usual, connecting major towns and cities in the region.



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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 22:33:46 »

Now there's an interesting philosophical question - how much (if any) of the Severn Tunnel is technically in Wales? Or is the closure more due to the remodelling at Severn Tunnel Junc?
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2009, 22:50:38 »

... how much (if any) of the Severn Tunnel is technically in Wales?

Some, but not much - according to my Ordnance Survey map showing the political boundaries, anyway.  Wink
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