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Author Topic: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion  (Read 748248 times)
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« Reply #1740 on: July 19, 2024, 21:10:43 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002142q will find this on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Sounds
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« Reply #1741 on: August 06, 2024, 15:49:07 »

For various reasons I haven't travelled on the GWR (Great Western Railway) Pullman for over a year but had the opportunity to put that right yesterday.

While the food is still excellent, some of the "polish" has gone.

There used to be three menus which rotated - now there is just the one which runs for a few months.

The food arrives already plated rather than silver service.

The individual small jars of mustards have been replaced with sachets - and only of english mustard.

Pre-dinner Gin and Tonic now comes ready mixed but is served with ice and lemon.

Complimentary water now in a plastic bottle rather than a fullsize glass one.

After dinner coffee now brought to the table in individual pots rather than poured to the cup.

However the overall bill is likely to be cheaper.   Two courses are £37 and three £44.   There is a £15 supplement for steak.   Looking back in this thread, a menu from 2017 showed an average three course meal (not steak) costing £47.

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6oz Fillet steak

(normallu served with green beans and dauphinoise potatoes)

..and yes there is still port.




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« Reply #1742 on: August 06, 2024, 18:53:03 »

Could in my view be summarised as "not bad, but not as good as it used to be"
But at least it has not been withdrawn.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1743 on: August 06, 2024, 23:15:33 »

Changing to a plastic bottle seems an odd move in these environmentally-conscious times.  Tap water in a jug is simple enough, tastes just as good and the jug is reusable.
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« Reply #1744 on: August 07, 2024, 03:41:29 »

Changing to a plastic bottle seems an odd move in these environmentally-conscious times.  Tap water in a jug is simple enough, tastes just as good and the jug is reusable.

In most cases I agree, I keep a supply of bottled water for emergencies but almost always drink tap water at home or when out and about.
However trains are different. The "tap water" on a train is from a storage tank that is filled via a hose from the mains water supply at the station. There is a slight risk of contamination from the tank or the hose. I would be reluctant to drink such water, unless in an emergency.

Back in BR (British Rail(ways)) days, drinking water in catering vehicles was sterilised by means of an ultraviolet lamp. A small spy hole in the sterilising unit allowed visual confirmation that the lamp was lit.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1745 on: August 07, 2024, 07:40:19 »

These days the tanks are filled at a depot but the same risks apply.

In my opinion the bigger problem is - would you want an open vessel containing a litre or more of liquid open on a moving train?   

There is also the issue that space is at a premium on the single tables and a jug would probably take up more room than a bottle, glass or plastic. 
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« Reply #1746 on: Today at 08:10:33 »

Yesterday I posted in the Night Riviera thread a review of the service on frequent flyer site Head For Points (which sometimes covers other modes of transport), today they've posted one of Pullman Dining on a journey from Plymouth to Paddington:

https://www.headforpoints.com/2025/04/13/review-gwr-pullman-dining/

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« Reply #1747 on: Today at 08:28:12 »

Yesterday I posted in the Night Riviera thread a review of the service on frequent flyer site Head For Points (which sometimes covers other modes of transport), today they've posted one of Pullman Dining on a journey from Plymouth to Paddington:

https://www.headforpoints.com/2025/04/13/review-gwr-pullman-dining/




Worth noting;

"GWR (Great Western Railway) had booked me on the Pullman Dining train back to London. Tickets for both trips were provided by GWR for review purposes".

.............and anyone who asks for a fillet steak "well done", should be ejected from the establishment in question immediately, whether restaurant or train!  Shocked

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« Reply #1748 on: Today at 08:55:06 »


.............and anyone who asks for a fillet steak "well done", should be ejected from the establishment in question immediately, whether restaurant or train!  Shocked


As said in the comments a great chef will cook a steak well done even if he dies a little inside.
Prefer ours well done (to potentially get banned by TG for saying such things on a public forum)  Grin
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« Reply #1749 on: Today at 09:09:26 »


.............and anyone who asks for a fillet steak "well done", should be ejected from the establishment in question immediately, whether restaurant or train!  Shocked


As said in the comments a great chef will cook a steak well done even if he dies a little inside.
Prefer ours well done (to potentially get banned by TG for saying such things on a public forum)  Grin

Good answer!  As it's Sunday I will put one on the BBQ for you and leave it there till a GWR (Great Western Railway) train comes along - should be cinders by then!!!)  Cheesy 



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« Reply #1750 on: Today at 09:54:55 »

Now if you want decent catering...

https://jidelnivozy.cz/menu/index.html

There is a slightly different menu for the conventional loco hauled trains which has an excellent roasted ham with 3 or 4 fried eggs on top and some bread to soak up the yolk with, 119 kč or a tad over £4.

I try not to eat out too often.

Recommended 2 course dinner is the guláš polévka with the veal, gorgeous! To drink there's a craft beer from Chroust brewery, proper Bud or draught Pilsner Urquell. And if in first class, all done from your seat, the first class host regularly walks through the coach.
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