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« Reply #1335 on: December 15, 2017, 22:22:19 »

There were rumours that a trial of the Pullman Brunch was going to be run on one IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) service to Swansea this week, although I have yet to discover if it actually happened.

I do know there was no service on the 10:45 from Paddington to Swansea HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) service yesterday because the crew had been redeployed for a "familiarisation run on an IET".
I do hope they've got hot food sorted before these new trains are put on the Cotswold line.
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« Reply #1336 on: December 15, 2017, 22:26:55 »

2nd Jan? They'll need to get a move on!
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« Reply #1337 on: December 15, 2017, 22:30:34 »

2nd Jan? They'll need to get a move on!

Should be on turkey & chips by then.
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« Reply #1338 on: December 16, 2017, 16:30:47 »

2nd Jan? They'll need to get a move on!

Should be on turkey & chips by then.
That's no good for me as I'm a vegetarian. Grin
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« Reply #1339 on: December 16, 2017, 16:42:34 »

2nd Jan? They'll need to get a move on!

Should be on turkey & chips by then.
That's no good for me as I'm a vegetarian. Grin
Hard Cheese old boy.
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« Reply #1340 on: December 16, 2017, 17:05:55 »

2nd Jan? They'll need to get a move on!

Should be on turkey & chips by then.
That's no good for me as I'm a vegetarian. Grin
Hard Cheese old boy.
I bet you can't even get that  Shocked
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« Reply #1341 on: June 11, 2018, 11:31:40 »

As discussed elsewhere on these forums, a number of the IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) are running as single 5 car units instead of the promised 5+5 formation.

I have recently noticed on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website, under "catering updates" that short trains are often advertised as "catering reduced" Since catering had already been downgraded to only a trolley, "catering reduced" presumably means no catering.

Why ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1342 on: June 11, 2018, 11:44:39 »

As discussed elsewhere on these forums, a number of the IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) are running as single 5 car units instead of the promised 5+5 formation.

I have recently noticed on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website, under "catering updates" that short trains are often advertised as "catering reduced" Since catering had already been downgraded to only a trolley, "catering reduced" presumably means no catering.

Why ?

Wonder if they are anticipating that the trolley won't be able to get through the people having to stand due to the short formation?
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« Reply #1343 on: June 11, 2018, 11:59:24 »

Possibly, but I don't think that a static trolley rather than a mobile trolley, usually merits a mention on the website.
I therefore surmise that "reduced catering" is the approved term for "no catering"

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1344 on: June 11, 2018, 12:09:01 »

I have recently noticed on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website, under "catering updates" that short trains are often advertised as "catering reduced" Since catering had already been downgraded to only a trolley, "catering reduced" presumably means no catering.

It's not necessarily meaning that. Catering in the 5 car section of the IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) I travelled on yesterday from Cardiff to Swindon (15:20 Cardiff) was limited to cold drinks only (no food or hot drinks) served from what appeared to be a cart much reduced from the norm.   No shortage of customers - doing a roaring trade in alcohol on a hot afternoon!
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« Reply #1345 on: June 12, 2018, 09:24:42 »

Over 20 half length IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) today, and ALL advertised as having reduced catering.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1346 on: June 12, 2018, 09:31:31 »

Over 20 half length IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) today, and ALL advertised as having reduced catering.
I'd be more concerned about the reduced seating.
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« Reply #1347 on: June 12, 2018, 09:31:41 »

They also all say toilet facilities reduced, disabled toilet facilities reduced and first class facilities reduced.  Perhaps it just refers to the fact there's only one trolley instead of two?  Along with the 'reduction' in toilets, that is actually largely irrelevant to passengers given they would not have had access to toilets or the trolley in the other set anyway.  The only one of any relevance is the reduction in first class, though if that's the case perhaps they should say reduction in standard class too?
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« Reply #1348 on: June 12, 2018, 10:14:01 »

Over 20 half length IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) today, and ALL advertised as having reduced catering.
I'd be more concerned about the reduced seating.

Timmer, you should know by now there's only one thing that broadgage is concerned about!
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« Reply #1349 on: June 12, 2018, 10:18:47 »

Timmer, you should know by now there's only one thing that broadgage is concerned about!
I know and I know it disappoints him to think there are those who could be going hungry because the train is short formed.
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