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« Reply #1095 on: October 23, 2015, 13:49:22 » |
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They were losing money, I'm sure.
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« Reply #1096 on: October 23, 2015, 16:05:19 » |
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Or 72 on 2x5car bi-modes, and the same on the 9car 801s. (two sections I believe) - so they'll lay up one section & leave the other.
On a double 5 car unit, then yes in theory most of the first class in one unit could be laid for dining, and none in the other unit. I suspect that that this wont work very well in practice. Customers in the non dining end wont be able to walk through and partake of a meal since no gangways between units are provided. Non dining first class may be aggrieved that they cant walk through to the non dining end. One would presume that the Pullman will be in the unit to be detached at Plymouth, so longer distance passengers who wish to dine will have to board the Plymouth terminating unit, and then at some intermediate stop will have to alight and walk along the platform to the through portion, hoping that they get one of the 36 seats. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1097 on: October 23, 2015, 16:11:22 » |
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There is always CIS▸ / announcements / staff on platform to advise of the catering whereabouts - and for exactly the reason you give, I'm pretty sure you're wrong & the kitchen in use will be in the stock going all the way to the destination.
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« Reply #1098 on: December 03, 2015, 18:34:47 » |
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Been told new Pullman Menus will be launched on the 18th January.
Don't have too many details.
What I do know....
Salmon starter and steak main course remain (no surprise)
Scallop starter gets a makeover and will be prepared with a spicy sauce.
A lamb dish and one with duck will be added. Both have featured before but I suspect these will be differently prepared.
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« Reply #1099 on: December 04, 2015, 20:11:28 » |
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Tasty! I'm very partial to scallops.
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« Reply #1100 on: December 04, 2015, 20:25:11 » |
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Already being updated/amended. Steward this morning said priblems arose during a test day recently, but didn't say what they were
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« Reply #1101 on: January 07, 2016, 21:08:48 » |
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Been told new Pullman Menus will be launched on the 18th January.
Don't have too many details.
What I do know....
Salmon starter and steak main course remain (no surprise)
Scallop starter gets a makeover and will be prepared with a spicy sauce.
A lamb dish and one with duck will be added. Both have featured before but I suspect these will be differently prepared.
I received copies of the new menus this evening. Evolution not revolution is probably the best way to describe them. As they aren't in the public domain yet I've been asked not to share them. However, bobm's details about some of the new dishes are pretty accurate. |
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« Reply #1102 on: January 15, 2016, 08:30:00 » |
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An excellent, as always, breakfast on the Up South Wales Pullman from Bristol Parkway this morning. No news yet on South Wales seeing a return of an up lunch and down dinnner. The staff remain hopeful. Been a while since I've posted a meal picture. Nothing new, just the ever excellent Great Westerner breakfast:  |
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« Reply #1103 on: January 15, 2016, 09:46:57 » |
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Cranberry Juice - or a nice breakfast wine? . . .
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« Reply #1104 on: January 15, 2016, 10:09:32 » |
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Cranberry. Red wine is no for me at 8am.
I did consider a Bloody Mary though.
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« Reply #1105 on: January 15, 2016, 10:24:33 » |
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Never before noon! Although it's quarter past 6 in Kuala Lumpur.
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« Reply #1106 on: January 20, 2016, 19:08:44 » |
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My complimentary meal today on the 1201 Plymouth-London Paddington. Dining courtesy of GWR▸ following an unsavoury incident during my last Pullman meal. The incident discussed in Frequent Posters where my night ended with a friendly chat with BTP▸ .
Dined with fellow forum member bobm and he was no doubt delighted to learn that my comp was +1. Including alcohol. He celebrated this revelation with a full bottle of Prosecco.
(No. That's a lie. He ordered the fizz before learning he was 'comp' too.)
Excellent food and service as always. My trials and tribulations with GWR are well documented on this forum. However, the Pullman teams remain an excellent advertisement for GWR. Thanks today to Service Leader Steve, Chef Simon, and hosts Victoria and Helen.
Pictures and new Menu 1 review will follow in the next day or two.
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« Reply #1107 on: January 20, 2016, 19:30:07 » |
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Excellent, glad to hear that you enjoyed it.
As you, and others, have pointed out elsewhere on these forums, there is a lot that FGW▸ and more recently GWR▸ could do better, and at least a few things that they get blatantly wrong.
Pullman dining is arguably one of the best things about GWR so let us give praise where it is due. AFAIK▸ , GWR are now the only TOC▸ to offer a proper freshly cooked meal, silver served onto proper crockery and with a decent choice of wine and other drink.
Now that I have moved to the West I seldom have any excuse to dine on the train and I rather miss it.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
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« Reply #1108 on: January 20, 2016, 20:47:57 » |
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Not available on the Severn Beach Line, sadly.
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« Reply #1109 on: January 24, 2016, 10:44:07 » |
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AFAIK▸ , GWR▸ are now the only TOC▸ to offer a proper freshly cooked meal, silver served onto proper crockery and with a decent choice of wine and other drink. I had a nice cooked breakfast on ATW▸ 's Y Gerallt Gymro once, served on proper crockery. That should be still going, I don't know if they serve alcohol though since I don't drink the stuff. |
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