Bicycles on trains (merged topics)

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[SDS]

I enforce Condition 49 of the NRCoC^▸ (National Rail Conditions of Carriage) very strongly. esp (b) and (c)
You don't like it, tough.

The other problem with bike users is that they are inconsiderate. They never check if the space they are dumping their ^1000 bike/brompton/fold up/specalised/etc bike is reserved or not.
Then they moan when you ask them to remove their bike because someone is reserved in that space.
"Well It was okay yesterday."
"No sir it wasn't because I was on this train yesterday and I asked you to move"
"Err Err"
"Remove your bike please sir"

[Toiletdriver]

Simple BAN THE ****ING lot
The majority ruin it for the monority!
6 in HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train)
2 or 3 in your average Sprinter.
If the train crew say so, then no.
Prams and disabled passengers can also claim the space.

Oh, by the way. Railway byelaws state lights to be switched off on platforms. I have every right to make an emergency brake appilication on seeing a red light. On a full and standing train, a lot of people can be hurt.
And 1 foot on a pedal whilst pushing with the other foot is also against the railway byelaws.

And whilst on stations, do not chain to railings, left luggage trolleys, posts holding SPTs^▸ (Signal Post Telephone) (signal post telephones)

All very simple rules, which only the monority obey.

Been throwing bikes off trains for 15+ years, and will continue to do so for the next 15.

PS If you don't like it, complain to the police, tell the whole story though.
Riding my bike down the platform
Red light flashing
He refused me on the train.

STAFF, all we need to do is stick together!

[BBM]

The 06:53 Turbo from Twyford to Paddington on Monday had THREE full-size bikes in the vestibule nearest to where I was sitting and at Maidenhead someone attempted to add a fourth but was there really was no more room. My main concern is one of safety - what happens if there has to be an emergency evacuation and the doors are all blocked by bikes?  

[Toiletdriver]

The 06:53 Turbo from Twyford to Paddington on Monday had THREE full-size bikes in the vestibule nearest to where I was sitting and at Maidenhead someone attempted to add a fourth but was there really was no more room. My main concern is one of safety - what happens if there has to be an emergency evacuation and the doors are all blocked by bikes?  

Ask the cyclists?
What is said on a plane?
All doors to be kept clear!

PS Could a moderator delete my previous post?
Thanks, I can't see a "delete" button.

[Chris from Nailsea]

PS Could a moderator delete my previous post?
Thanks, I can't see a "delete" button.

Done - no problem! 

CfN. 

[SDS]

It's all because that t**t from Henley is promoting bikes so much. Here's an idea boris, ask ur Tory chums to bring back brake vans. No? No money? Well shut up promoting bikes then.

Bikes are for riding not for putting on trains.

Driver I like ur idea, a few emergency stops (or just normal stops) when you see red lights would get the message across to management when they have to explain to NR^» (Network Rail - home page) what the f was going on.
Flashing red light little harder to explain, as I haven't found a bike light that flashes like a rear lamp.

BAN THE LOT OF THEM 24/7.

[Chris from Nailsea]

Phew!   Well, jane s is certainly getting some very forthright views from our staff members here on this subject! 

Flashing red lights are actually quite easy to explain, SDS pad: I have two rear red lights on my bike, both of which have a selection of five different modes of illumination - from steady red, through intermittent flash, to full strobe effect.  Ever Ready, ^5.00 each! 

(Obviously, though, I don't switch them on, on any railway platform. )

[inspector_blakey]

I know it's generally pretty obvious what's a bike light and what's a hand signal, but it's always struck me that the green LED front lights that a lot of bikes seem to have are also potentially dangerous under the wrong circumstances.

[Toiletdriver]

Inspector, a red light is a stop light. Simple!
The modern lamps used by staff are LED but you also have the old Bardics. Cyclists use either LEDs or pathetic little bulbs.
I'm not being picky, BUT what if I thought it was a cycle but I really needed to be stopped?
In an emergency, what's the difference?
Railway byelaws are there for a reason!

Thank you Chris, you seem to be in the minority!

[Worcester_Passenger]

Well, jane s is certainly getting some very forthright views from our staff members here on this subject!

The 06:53 Turbo from Twyford to Paddington on Monday had THREE full-size bikes in the vestibule nearest to where I was sitting and at Maidenhead someone attempted to add a fourth but was there really was no more room. My main concern is one of safety - what happens if there has to be an emergency evacuation and the doors are all blocked by bikes? 

I'm with BBM - what happens if there has to be an emergency evacuation?

In The Netherlands everyone bicycles - but no-one is allowed to take a full-size bike on a train. Lots of people have two bikes, one at each end of their journey.

[Toiletdriver]

The Dutch has slackened, bikes used 100% banned on platforms, always chained up outside.
Inspector, I've never seen a green light on the front of a bike. Doesn't the highway code specify white?
If fitted, the green LED wouldn't confuse traincrew, too low.

[Toiletdriver]

PS SDS Pad, you are expecting too much reference your current signature!
Passengers able to read?
Understand?
Realise it apllies to them?
It's the same as the "quiet coach" syndrom.
That phone is important enough to p**s off every one who's sat in coach for peace and quiet, because I'm an important person who's above the rules!

MP^▸ (Member of Parliament) maybe 

[Chris from Nailsea]

Inspector, I've never seen a green light on the front of a bike. Doesn't the highway code specify white?
If fitted, the green LED wouldn't confuse traincrew, too low.

The Highway Code does indeed specify a 'white' light to the front:

60
At night your cycle MUST have white front and red rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red rear reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if manufactured after 1/10/85). White front reflectors and spoke reflectors will also help you to be seen. Flashing lights are permitted but it is recommended that cyclists who are riding in areas without street lighting use a steady front lamp.
[Law RVLR regs 13, 18 & 24)]

[SDS]

Explains the Multi story bike park outside Amsterdam central. You get lost in that place!! I did remember seeing a bike sign in the middle of a blue/yellow double decker train.

Why can't it be like that here. If I could give ^50 fines for riding on the platform, the government would solve the deficit overnight!

Quiet coach syndrome, yep that's why everyone flocks to coach A, past loads of empty seats and then moan why they can't find a seat. Duh.
I've threatened to throw a phone out the window, once before. Most annoying convo ever. Constantly going "oh I know, I know, ooh I know" SHUT UP GOD DAMMIT!!

[Mookiemoo]

I've dumped a mobile phone into a plastic glass of stella

After said passenger refused to comply with complaints from pax and the TM^‡(resolve)