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« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2009, 22:03:10 »

There are actually limits to what you can take on board with you (and always have been, it's not something recent). The Accompanied Animals and Articles (AAA) conditions are, I think, an additional document to the conditions of carriage that can be inspected at stations. Tickets can (or used to be) issued for luggage in excess of the allowance, with status AAA printed on them.

There have to be rules of some sort covering luggage, otherwise people will just try taking the p*ss...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/6588209.stm

So was I taking the piss with one carry on bag and two suitcases - one which weighed 56lbs and one which weighed 69lbs?

Had to have help hauling them on the train.......and off again.

When I departed these shores they were empty - combined weight 30lbs!

I damn sure would not have been happy having to buy separate tickets for them!



One wonders what the 95lbs additional weight on your return to these shores was. Do we need to iform HM Revenue and Customs? Grin

20 packs pounce cat treats
8 pairs levis
40 (ahem) womens undergarments
40 (ahem) mens undergarments
10 womens undergarments for which there is no male equivalent
2 Ralph Lauren toweling bathrobes (try getting a terry towel robe in the UK (United Kingdom) - John Lewis/M&S either want a small fortune or only sell fluffies)
60 pairs of socks (the cashier in Walmart thought I was but but where in the UK can you get 6 fruit of the loom or haynes undergarments for $2.99)
6 pairs of jammies
20 t-shirts with *humourous phrases* that my small mind finds amusing which you dont seem to get in the UK - the two best of which were "Sorry - mind closed until further notice" and " Sarcasm is only one of my many talents"
1 Kansas university fluffy hoody in crimson and blue - my winter outergarment since I dont do coats
1 pot watcher
2 full set of clinique facial care - cleanser, soap, toner, light moisturiser, factor 15 day cream, night cream - that will last a year and saved me close to ^50 alone!

And - which is where most of the weight was - 1 ream of US letter printer paper and 6 packs of college ruled letter paper - te airline lost my file I'd taken over to work on my course whch started that week - I am OCD in that each course has to be all on the same type of paper/size etc etc and it was start o US paper pr fall behind - of course once I stsarted - the whole course had to be on the same paper so I had to bring back enough three hole punch US paper to cover a 60 credit OU course!  I HAD THE LUGGAGE ALLOWANCE SO WHY NOT!

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« Reply #61 on: October 01, 2009, 22:04:42 »

They do say that you should be able to carry them yourself.

I don't know how many lbs you're allowed to bring on. I take it on a Pacer it is less lest the engine breaks down.

Is their a weight restriction (e.g. most airlines are about 50 lbs)

70lbs in FC(resolve)!  At least with north west (although now they are delta I see that being reduced) and since they did the baggae check at MCI ot was their rules that applied!  Even virgin upper class only allowed 50lbs
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« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2009, 22:07:42 »

So it looks like 110 lbs is the baggage weight limit for taking onboard the train.

If there's a guard's van, each item can be up to 165 lbs.

But you won't be accepted on a train if you have >165 lbs. After all, that is 11 stone!

And Fallen Angel certainly has been using a credit card on her travels! Grin Tongue
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« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2009, 22:11:33 »

So it looks like 110 lbs is the baggage weight limit for taking onboard the train.

If there's a guard's van, each item can be up to 165 lbs.

But you won't be accepted on a train if you have >165 lbs. After all, that is 11 stone!

And Fallen Angel certainly has been using a credit card on her travels! Grin Tongue

*smug mode*

Debit card

I was down to 20 odd socks (my cat likes to take them from the laundry and bury them) and we wont tal about the under garmetns - needless to say I was anticipating such a trip and refused to pay rip off UK (United Kingdom) prices.

The jeans had been waiting over a year since my december trip last year failed to acquire jeans as 34-32 mens and 25 inch leg womens were off the shelves as being minority sizing in lieu of the crimbo decorations. We had holes in our jeans!
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« Reply #64 on: October 01, 2009, 22:13:50 »

I can't believe you went to all the trouble of converting the kg weights to lbs. Actually, no, hang on, I can, metric is an evil EU» (European Union - about) conspiracy to subdue the British into using simple logical units of measurement whilst progressively eroding our national identity Wink

Wasnt me but.....

I'm 33, I was taught metric but my mother was imperial only (my dad could handle both but preferred imperial)

I spent my childhood converting between the two. 

As an adult - I work in imperial (maybe cos I spent too much time in the states at college and working) - except in academic work when I automatically go SI units

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« Reply #65 on: October 01, 2009, 22:16:20 »

20 packs pounce cat treats
8 pairs levis
40 (ahem) womens undergarments
40 (ahem) mens undergarments
10 womens undergarments for which there is no male equivalent
2 Ralph Lauren toweling bathrobes (try getting a terry towel robe in the UK (United Kingdom) - John Lewis/M&S either want a small fortune or only sell fluffies)
60 pairs of socks (the cashier in Walmart thought I was but but where in the UK can you get 6 fruit of the loom or haynes undergarments for $2.99)
6 pairs of jammies
20 t-shirts with *humourous phrases* that my small mind finds amusing which you dont seem to get in the UK - the two best of which were "Sorry - mind closed until further notice" and " Sarcasm is only one of my many talents"
1 Kansas university fluffy hoody in crimson and blue - my winter outergarment since I dont do coats
1 pot watcher
2 full set of clinique facial care - cleanser, soap, toner, light moisturiser, factor 15 day cream, night cream - that will last a year and saved me close to ^50 alone!

And - which is where most of the weight was - 1 ream of US letter printer paper and 6 packs of college ruled letter paper - te airline lost my file I'd taken over to work on my course whch started that week - I am OCD in that each course has to be all on the same type of paper/size etc etc and it was start o US paper pr fall behind - of course once I stsarted - the whole course had to be on the same paper so I had to bring back enough three hole punch US paper to cover a 60 credit OU course!  I HAD THE LUGGAGE ALLOWANCE SO WHY NOT!

I just hope no-one from HMRC is reading this...

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From 1 December 2008, when travelling from a non-EU» (European Union - about) country (including the Canary Islands, the Channel Islands and Gibraltar) you can bring the following into the UK for your own use without paying UK tax or duty:

    * 200 cigarettes; or 100 cigarillos; or 50 cigars; or 250g of tobacco
    * 4 litres of still table wine
    * 16 litres of beer
    * 1 litre of spirits or strong liqueurs over 22 per cent volume; or 2 litres of fortified wine (such as port or sherry), sparkling wine or other alcoholic beverages of less than 22 per cent volume and
    * ^300 worth of all other goods including perfume and souvenirs.

If you have any more than these allowances you must declare the goods in the red channel or use the red point phone. If you do not, you are breaking the law and we may prosecute you.

SI units are a bit too thoroughly ingrained in me, I think - everything in labs is still metric here. I can't get used to temperatures in fahrenheit, that's the main thing...
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« Reply #66 on: October 01, 2009, 22:25:04 »

Umm, because despite being educated with kg, they mean nothing to me.

I have always weighed myself in Feet and Stone, always cooked in Ounces as that's what my parents use.

And when I last looked, road signs and limits were in miles.

Whenever I do anything academic (and academic calculations) I use metric.

But in the "real world" I've quickly learned that Imperial is far easier and known by everyone. And it is an EU» (European Union - about) conspiracy that has FAILED, many markets have gone back to using lbs because people EVERYONE can use them.

PS: try and use metric in English language:

*But London's kilometres away...

*Anyone with a kilogram of common sense...

*They're trying to fit a litre into a millilitre pot....

*The kilometre-ige of the race...

Don't quite work, do they?

PS: I've never used Fahrenheit. I use Celsius, although we should technically use Kelvin...
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« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2009, 22:25:55 »

20 packs pounce cat treats
8 pairs levis
40 (ahem) womens undergarments
40 (ahem) mens undergarments
10 womens undergarments for which there is no male equivalent
2 Ralph Lauren toweling bathrobes (try getting a terry towel robe in the UK (United Kingdom) - John Lewis/M&S either want a small fortune or only sell fluffies)
60 pairs of socks (the cashier in Walmart thought I was but but where in the UK can you get 6 fruit of the loom or haynes undergarments for $2.99)
6 pairs of jammies
20 t-shirts with *humourous phrases* that my small mind finds amusing which you dont seem to get in the UK - the two best of which were "Sorry - mind closed until further notice" and " Sarcasm is only one of my many talents"
1 Kansas university fluffy hoody in crimson and blue - my winter outergarment since I dont do coats
1 pot watcher
2 full set of clinique facial care - cleanser, soap, toner, light moisturiser, factor 15 day cream, night cream - that will last a year and saved me close to ^50 alone!

And - which is where most of the weight was - 1 ream of US letter printer paper and 6 packs of college ruled letter paper - te airline lost my file I'd taken over to work on my course whch started that week - I am OCD in that each course has to be all on the same type of paper/size etc etc and it was start o US paper pr fall behind - of course once I stsarted - the whole course had to be on the same paper so I had to bring back enough three hole punch US paper to cover a 60 credit OU course!  I HAD THE LUGGAGE ALLOWANCE SO WHY NOT!

I just hope no-one from HMRC is reading this...

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From 1 December 2008, when travelling from a non-EU» (European Union - about) country (including the Canary Islands, the Channel Islands and Gibraltar) you can bring the following into the UK for your own use without paying UK tax or duty:

    * 200 cigarettes; or 100 cigarillos; or 50 cigars; or 250g of tobacco
    * 4 litres of still table wine
    * 16 litres of beer
    * 1 litre of spirits or strong liqueurs over 22 per cent volume; or 2 litres of fortified wine (such as port or sherry), sparkling wine or other alcoholic beverages of less than 22 per cent volume and
    * ^300 worth of all other goods including perfume and souvenirs.

If you have any more than these allowances you must declare the goods in the red channel or use the red point phone. If you do not, you are breaking the law and we may prosecute you.

SI units are a bit too thoroughly ingrained in me, I think - everything in labs is still metric here. I can't get used to temperatures in fahrenheit, that's the main thing...



If you exclude the clinique I did not spend over ^300 in total!  Kansas is CHEAP

Unless you want produce when they make waitrose and M&S look cheap. A small piece of non plastic cheese is like ^5 - a non plastic loaf is about ^3 and dont even look at fresh vegetables - corn and soya is however cheap
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« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2009, 22:30:37 »

So it looks like 110 lbs is the baggage weight limit for taking onboard the train.

If there's a guard's van, each item can be up to 165 lbs.

But you won't be accepted on a train if you have >165 lbs. After all, that is 11 stone!


I make it 150Kg (330lb), split between three items, allowable in passenger accomodation from the information supplied in the NRCoC (National Rail Conditions of Carriage). Quite how one person can cart about 150Kg of luggage without causing delays to trains (or injury to themselves!) is beyond me.

Take note of the '+' signs in the illustration:

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« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2009, 22:37:03 »

Also - I challenge HMRC to value pounce treats not available in the UK (United Kingdom) or t shirts which the UK don't have the silly idiocy for!
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« Reply #70 on: October 01, 2009, 23:49:44 »

Re baggage allowance: I was referring to a limit on each item, although I didn't make this clear.
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« Reply #71 on: November 02, 2009, 20:18:20 »

Do any HST (High Speed Train) 125s go to 125 mph anywhere on the FGW (First Great Western) network anymore - if yes, where?
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« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2009, 20:33:47 »

In theory, from London Paddington to Wotton Bassett. (whatever the spelling is)

Although there has been debate on these forums whether FGW (First Great Western) tell drivers to do 110 in normal running to save fuel and allow make up time.
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« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2009, 20:36:23 »

Is Wotton Basset near Swindon?
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« Reply #74 on: November 02, 2009, 20:38:05 »

Wootton Bassett is, yes.  Grin
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